MLB Discussion Thread - Page 496

djp · 12-06-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

He'll be fine, it's not that difficult to come back from Tommy John anymore.

It's really not. I read an article last month with interviews from a couple scouts and gm's and they were saying how they basically expect a successful pitcher to tear their ucl once during their career. The issue is more mental than anything. Now, it's a different story if you have more than one or the dreaded shoulder problems.

SenorGato · 12-06-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

Mark Prior all over again.

I wish Mark Prior's problems had been mere TJ surgery....he'd probably still be a ML pitcher if that was it...a damn good one too.

ATLDirtyBirds · 12-06-2010, 11:48 AM

When we asked him [Bill James] which was the next market inefficiency that teams could exploit this offseason, he dryly suggested "just watch what the [post-Minaya] Mets do."

<3.

Xiomera · 12-06-2010, 11:58 AM

If the Yankees sign Crawford, does that mean Curtis Granderson gets traded?

I'd love to see him back in a Tigers uniform.

Brodeur · 12-06-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

Mark Reynolds for David Hernandez & Kam Mickolio

kind of feel like the D'Backs are selling low, don't know much about the O's guys though

Selling low is an understatement.

fenikz · 12-06-2010, 12:13 PM

well as long as we replace him with someone like Lee i'll consider it a win

Brent · 12-06-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

He'll be fine, it's not that difficult to come back from Tommy John anymore.

depends on the type of TJ surgery. if it's a complete tear, you come back as strong or better. if it's a partial tear, you might never be the same.

Hines · 12-06-2010, 12:39 PM

So the DBacks replace Reynolds with Melvin Mora.

Hines · 12-06-2010, 12:41 PM

Gross, looks like the Pirates are close with Scott Olsen. :(

fenikz · 12-06-2010, 12:48 PM

Brodeur · 12-06-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent

depends on the type of TJ surgery. if it's a complete tear, you come back as strong or better. if it's a partial tear, you might never be the same.

I'm pretty sure it was a complete tear.

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Originally Posted by fenikz

If it helps, I won't make fun of Mark Grace as a commentator anymore.

fenikz · 12-06-2010, 12:54 PM

i dont get that, like why havent we found a way to tear it completely if its only partially torn

Giantsfan1080 · 12-06-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

The Phillies are going to be financially strung out in a few years when everybody is on the decline except for Cole Hamels, and they have a pretty weak farm system with all of their trades of late. I suppose if Dominic Brown turns out to be a star, they could keep things going but ehh....

The braves should be able to pass the Phillies very very soon, maybe in 2011 considering how absurd their pitching depth is. The Mets are finally being run better, but they're situation is still kind of a mess, and I can't really predict the Marlins because of how ******** their movies this offseason have been...

And now back to my point about the Nationals. They have a franchise cornerstone (Zimmerman), the best prospect in baseball (Harper) who has ******* ridiculous power and will alone start drawing fans to the stadium, an exceptional pitcher (Strasburg) and now have laid the seeds for free agents to start coming to the city. I think the Werth deal is absolutely insane, but it's something of a message to the rest of the MLB and the fans in DC that they are going to do what it takes to compete. If Strasburg remains healthy and Harper blows through the minors, I see no reason why they can't compete in 2012 or 2013, and Werth should still have something left in the tank at that point.

Really Brodeur? I don't expect this from you.

Giantsfan1080 · 12-06-2010, 01:42 PM

How exactly does Werth fill seats? He's a very good player but he's not really that big of a name and leaving CBP is going to hurt his numbers also even though he does well in Nats stadium.

As for the Mets spending money just to spend is a terrible idea. If the Mets put a winner on the field the fans will be there regardless of the payroll. Our new staff aren't a bunch of morons.

Brodeur · 12-06-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Really Brodeur? I don't expect this from you.

I don't care for your attitude Zak.

Giantsfan1080 · 12-06-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

I don't care for your attitude Zak.

Just getting you back from when you corrected me like 3 or so years ago.

Jughead10 · 12-06-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Xiomera

If the Yankees sign Crawford, does that mean Curtis Granderson gets traded?

I'd love to see him back in a Tigers uniform.

No. I doubt we get Crawford anyway but if we did, Swisher would likely be dumped.

Jughead10 · 12-06-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

As for the Mets spending money just to spend is a terrible idea. If the Mets put a winner on the field the fans will be there regardless of the payroll. Our new staff aren't a bunch of morons.

They aren't morons obviously but they seem to want to run the Mets like a small market team. With their expertise and a big payroll they should be unstoppable. But this upcoming season Citi Field will be empty. And that will decide your 2012 budget which is supposed to be when you'll spend again.

thenewfeature06 · 12-06-2010, 02:17 PM

Not giddy about Reynolds, how could I be when he has the record for most strikeouts in a season. At the same time, we gave up David Hernandez who was decent, orginally a starter and seemed better in a reliever role. I feel like we won the trade no matter how bad it was for both.

ccB · 12-06-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

Mark Reynolds for David Hernandez & Kam Mickolio

kind of feel like the D'Backs are selling low, don't know much about the O's guys though

Hernandez could be a quality 8th inning guy as soon as next year, and Mickolio, well....he has a cool name?

fenikz · 12-06-2010, 03:11 PM

My guess at the 2011 D'Backs

1. Joe Saunders L
2. Ian Kennedy R
3. Dan Hudson R
4. Barry Enright R
5. Zach Duke L

CL J.J. Putz R*
SU David Hernandez R
RP Juan Gutierrez R
RP Brian Sweeney R
RP Sam Demel R
LOOGY ?

C Miguel Montero L
1B Derrek Lee R*
2B Kelly Johnson L
SS Stephen Drew L
3B Melvin Mora R
RF Justin Upton R
CF Chris Young R
LF Brandon Allen L
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Util Geoff Blum S
1B Juan Miranda L
LF Xavier Nady R
C John Hester R
OF Gerardo Parra L / Cole Gillispe R
INF Tony Abreu S / Ryan Roberts R / Rusty Ryal R

* = Rumored FA Signings

Chucky · 12-06-2010, 03:11 PM

Jays in pursuit of Carlos Pena....would be a huge upgrade over Overbay. As long as it isn't for too long I would be pleased

Hines · 12-06-2010, 03:13 PM

Pirates "deeply" interested in Jeremy Accardo. I wonder if this means that Meek/Hanrahan are out the door for a SS and/or SP. Accardo wouldn't be too bad, but I think I'd perfer Manny Corpas in this situation.

Jughead10 · 12-06-2010, 03:26 PM

I would love for the Yankees to get Matt Diaz. He's a better fielding option for the role that Thames filled well last year.

Giantsfan1080 · 12-06-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

They aren't morons obviously but they seem to want to run the Mets like a small market team. With their expertise and a big payroll they should be unstoppable. But this upcoming season Citi Field will be empty. And that will decide your 2012 budget which is supposed to be when you'll spend again.

They've already come out and said they are going to use the Red Sox as the model for our future. We're going to spend more money in the upcoming draft and when we get all our pieces together they are going to spend when they need to. We might have a lower payroll the next year or two but they aren't going to run the franchise like a small market team, in fact it will be the opposite. If there are no players to spend the money immediately that's fine.