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Old 12-10-2010, 10:55 AM    (permalink
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I think they are such polar opposite personalities, it is unfair to even compare their potential moves. I see us giving him his short deal now and if we can continue to win, we could find the funds to win.
I dunno....It's a long ways away but based on what Crawford get you are looking for at least 22-25 mil a year for the guy. I just don't know if Cincy can afford that.
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I dunno....It's a long ways away but based on what Crawford get you are looking for at least 22-25 mil a year for the guy. I just don't know if Cincy can afford that.
If we can put winning seasons together back to back we can easily IMO.
Cincinnati has always been a baseball town. We keep the wins coming, the money will be there.
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If Votto did leave the Reds it would be because a large market club overwhelmed him with an offer. I don't think him being Canadian matters at all.
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If Votto did leave the Reds it would be because a large market club overwhelmed him with an offer. I don't think him being Canadian matters at all.
I think the Jays would be willing to throw a huge offer Vottos way. He would be FA right when Vernons contract is coming off the books so the Jays should have some cash to work with. And Votto would be a legend in Toronto. Toronto fans love cheering for Canadian players. When Matt ******* Stairs was on the team he was the most(or at least top 3) popular player on the team.
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I think the Jays would be willing to throw a huge offer Vottos way. He would be FA right when Vernons contract is coming off the books so the Jays should have some cash to work with. And Votto would be a legend in Toronto. Toronto fans love cheering for Canadian players. When Matt ******* Stairs was on the team he was the most(or at least top 3) popular player on the team.
Any large market team would cheer for Votto like he's a God. You think the Mets or Cubs wouldn't love to have an MVP like Votto manning 1B for the next 10 years. I didn't see Nash going to play for the Raptors just because he was Canadian.
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Any large market team would cheer for Votto like he's a God. You think the Mets or Cubs wouldn't love to have an MVP like Votto manning 1B for the next 10 years. I didn't see Nash going to play for the Raptors just because he was Canadian.
Meh....Its more the Jays willing to dish out the extra cash than Votto going there because its Canada. There is a cap in the NBA so its kind of different.
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Martin leaning towards the Red Sox. Happy about that and it makes sense. We could give him more AB's both right now and in the future.
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So I saw Eric Gagne yesterday what a freaking prick. He didn't even shake hands with me when I wanted to talk to him.
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If Votto did leave the Reds it would be because a large market club overwhelmed him with an offer. I don't think him being Canadian matters at all.
When is he a free agent? The fact that the Yankees and Red Sox have very long term options at 1B, will hurt his earning power.
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Damn I didnt even notice that the Twins nabbed Scott Diamond in the rule V. Dammit.
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Something to think about with Votto is that most Canadians in MLB are historically from BC. That's a long way from Toronto, so they probably wouldn't feel much stronger towards Toronto than any MLB city, if at all. Votto though is not only from Canada, but from the Greater Toronto Area. So the pull to sign with the Blue Jays is probably going to be stronger for him than for other Canadian baseball players. Him leaving is still a bit of a longshot. Like Chucky said, if he played for the Blue Jays he'd be Canada's favourite athlete, after like 300 hockey players. He's already probably Cincinatti's favourite athlete, period.
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Canada's favorite athlete is clearly Pete Orr.

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Since Cliff Lee still hasn't made up his mind, that must make some Yankees fans a little uneasy...
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Since Cliff Lee still hasn't made up his mind, that must make some Yankees fans a little uneasy...
One thing that's working heavily in your favor is income tax laws. Rangers can outbid the Yankees without actually having to outbid them.
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I know everyone here said there's no way Texas would get Lee, but I have to say... it's sounding more and more like the Rangers have a chance! This is some crazy stuff. They might get Greinke TOO! OMG. That would be insane.
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I thought you didn't want the Rangers to sign Lee for the amount of money he will command.
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I thought you didn't want the Rangers to sign Lee for the amount of money he will command.
I have mixed feelings about it. There is possible good and there is possibly bad (if he regresses/gets hurt).

But if you've been keeping up with this thread then you know deep down I've wanted them to resign Lee for a long time. I'll definitely feel a little crushed inside if he doesn't resign. Sucks even more because it's the Yankees.

I'd really panic if we didn't get Lee or Greinke. That would be the ultimate worst. So if you want to see me in real pain, you should hope for that Chucky. I know you monitor my feelings closer than anyone on this forum. lol ;)
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Something to think about with Votto is that most Canadians in MLB are historically from BC. That's a long way from Toronto, so they probably wouldn't feel much stronger towards Toronto than any MLB city, if at all. Votto though is not only from Canada, but from the Greater Toronto Area. So the pull to sign with the Blue Jays is probably going to be stronger for him than for other Canadian baseball players. Him leaving is still a bit of a longshot. Like Chucky said, if he played for the Blue Jays he'd be Canada's favourite athlete, after like 300 hockey players. He's already probably Cincinatti's favourite athlete, period.
He grew up in REXDALE! and went to the worst school of life, Richview :| i hate that school, DON BOSCO FTW!

but you guys have to realize, he grew up in Toronto, fans here show the most passion, imo, to their sports teams than most of the sports fans for other markets. Also, the Jays are on the rise and he has to hate the Sox and Yankees since he grew up here. If we pay up, I believe we can steal him away
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This. Votto is God in Cincinnati. No other city could possibly love him more than Cincinnati does. And another thing I'd like to point out: His best friend, Jay Bruce, just signed an extension for 6 years.
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Crawford introduced :)

Yankees reportedly offered Martin a 1 year deal. I'm willing to bet we're offering more years. He's an important sign IMO. We still need a 700+ OPS RH in our lineup and Martin has a chance to do that. That's not even mentioning our catching woes.
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Martin should come to the Jays although I don't see it happening.
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Sounds like the Cubs are the frontrunners for Matt Garza right now.
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You guys better appreciate him! Tampa raised him from a pup. I can't tell you the number times my friends and I were driving across the bridge to get to MLBs very own Sams Club warehouse known as Tropicana field knowing that we just spent the little bit of money we had to witness 1 of that years 100 losses and not caring because we get to see baseball's best keep secret play LF that day. You just got a guy that got his first hit as Tampa Bay Devil Ray, you also just got a guy that will his 3,000th hit as a member of Boston Red Sox.

And I hope he smacks the p1ss outta Youkilis like Manny did just for GP alone.
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Sounds like the Cubs are the frontrunners for Matt Garza right now.

For what? If Garza gets traded for a handful of mid tier minor leaguers my head will explode.
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