MLB Discussion Thread - Page 668

Giantsfan1080 · 07-27-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hines

Rumored that Edwin Jackson will get shipped to STL for Rasmus.

Ehh really? Cards are dumb.

Damix · 07-27-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Ehh really? Cards are dumb.

LaRussa is an idiot, what do you expect.

Hines · 07-27-2011, 11:45 AM

It'd be Edwin Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, and Dotel for Rasmus if it goes through.

yodapoop · 07-27-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Give me a ******* break Prince. He is staring right at his glove touching Lugo's knee, don't even try this excuse.

Yeah, wow. Dude is obviously doing a good job of blocking the plate, the throw is there. Some umpires would just use those two things and call him out. Plus there was an obvious tag. I mean I usually can't stand people complaining about refs, umps, or officials. But man, when they blow what seems to be such an obvious call, everyone has a right to be upset.

Damix · 07-27-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hines

It'd be Edwin Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, and Dotel for Rasmus if it goes through.

Still awful. Why do the Card's hate Rasmus so much.

Brodeur · 07-27-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Damix

Still awful. Why do the Card's hate Rasmus so much.

Because you said "Card's" instead of Cards.

Hines · 07-27-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Damix

Still awful. Why do the Card's hate Rasmus so much.

I think it has to do with his father being a douche about everything. I don't know. Rasmus needs to play everyday.

Damix · 07-27-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Because you said "Card's" instead of Cards.

I did it just for you.

M.O.T.H. · 07-27-2011, 11:51 AM

If Rasmus was right handed, he'd probably be a Brave already.

yodapoop · 07-27-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Damix

Still awful. Why do the Card's hate Rasmus so much.

He had fueds with LaRussa. Plus, he doesn't like McGwire, and his dad made some recent comments. Such as that the Cards are trying to make Rasmus into Skip Schumaker. But yeah, I still must say, Rasmus is better than any other dude we can put out there. I know Jay can play and all, but I'd rather have Rasmus since I don't think Jay can be an every day CF.

Damix · 07-27-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by yodapoop

He had fueds with LaRussa. Plus, he doesn't like McGwire, and his dad made some recent comments. Such as that the Cards are trying to make Rasmus into Skip Schumaker. But yeah, I still must say, Rasmus is better than any other dude we can put out there. I know Jay can play and all, but I'd rather have Rasmus since I don't think Jay can be an every day CF.

It is true though, why are they trying to make him into a slap hitter. Rasmus can be a super star, just let him be.

Hell I'd take him in RF for the Yanks.

Hines · 07-27-2011, 11:54 AM

Looks like the deal is official.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-27-2011, 11:56 AM

Alex A does it again.

Brodeur · 07-27-2011, 11:56 AM

Don't worry, when Edwin leaves after the year the Cards will have a Supplementary first from Dotel leaving and however you spell Marc's name for Rasmus.

MidwayMonster31 · 07-27-2011, 11:57 AM

Teahen wasn't doing much for us anyway. As for Jackson, St. Louis would make a lot more sense than Toronto.
What can Jays fans tell me about Zach Stewart? The only things that I know about him is that he's trying to make the change from power reliever to starter.

yodapoop · 07-27-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Damix

It is true though, why are they trying to make him into a slap hitter. Rasmus can be a super star, just let him be.

Hell I'd take him in RF for the Yanks.

Haha I really don't know why they don't just let Rasmus be Rasmus. IDK, do the Cardinals think they already have too many super star power hitters so they want slap hitters. I know that makes no sense I was being sarcastic. But I think its got to do with chemistry issues is why we are trading him. Our GM said that was one of the things he tried to improve in the offseason. I personally think chemistry is overrated, but thats why I am a fan, not a GM.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-27-2011, 11:59 AM

Sounds like Beltran to the Giants is getting close for a ****** return. I swear if Culberson and Peguero are the best we get I'm going to be pissed.

Hines · 07-27-2011, 12:00 PM

If the Cards were just giving away Rasmus, the Pirates should have jumped in on that.

Jughead10 · 07-27-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Sounds like Beltran to the Giants is getting close for a ****** return. I swear if Culberson and Peguero are the best we get I'm going to be pissed.

What did you expect? It seemed the whole time the Mets were trying to stir up and create their own market for Beltran. They asked for the moon and every team shot them down according to the so called insiders.

yodapoop · 07-27-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hines

If the Cards were just giving away Rasmus, the Pirates should have jumped in on that.

Well we do have a need for a starter. So we are not exactly giving him away. And I am guessing we did not wanna trade Rasmus within the division.

M.O.T.H. · 07-27-2011, 12:02 PM

I heard Jonathan Sanchez would probably be in the package.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-27-2011, 12:02 PM

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What did you expect? It seemed the whole time the Mets were trying to stir up and create their own market for Beltran. They asked for the moon and every team shot them down according to the so called insiders.

About 15 of the Rangers B prospects are better than the Giants B prospects. I'm not expecting a Belt, Wheeler, Profar, Perez type prospect but there was still quality to be had. Also according to the "insiders" the last two days teams were starting to balk at the asking price and were prepared to give up some better quality players.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-27-2011, 12:03 PM

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I heard Jonathan Sanchez would probably be in the package.

I think Adam Rubin was mistaken on that. Wouldn't make much sense from a Mets perspective.

Hines · 07-27-2011, 12:12 PM

Buster Olney tweeted that the real deal is this:

Blue Jays get:

Colby Rasmus
Trever Miller
Brian Tallet
PJ Walters

Cards get:

Edwin Jackson
Corey Patterson
Octavio Dotel
Marc Rzepczynski

Miller would then be traded to the White Sox.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo? · 07-27-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

I think Adam Rubin was mistaken on that. Wouldn't make much sense from a Mets perspective.

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jonmorosi
#SFGiants are willing to include Gary Brown in Beltran deal, source says. Could be key development. #Mets #Braves

Sabs getting desperate because I didn't think he would include Brown. Other names that have been floated around for Beltran:
P Dan Runzler
OF Francisco Peguero
2B Charlie Culberson

If I had to take a guess the package is Brown, Peguero, and a PTBNL (most likely a pitcher).

Edit- Looks like SF is very close to getting Beltran:

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TBrownYahoo
Looks like Beltran is indeed going to SF, according to source. Logistics being worked out.