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I'm so psyched that Boston didn't get in. Although it does suck that there are no one-game playoffs when two seemed a possibility going into the games.
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Texas is going to **** on the Rays.
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haha that was awesome.
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I hope all the teams die in plane wrecks and they cancel the World Series.
























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I'm honestly glad this went down the way it did. Any other way and we get a massive pass for having 36M in useless dollars on the payroll this year.
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Only if you take Theo and Lackey in a package deal.
Sold. Lackey might not have a messy divorce to deal with anymore, so he could be better next year. And Epstein can rebuild a desolate farm system. And we might throw in Brent Morel too.
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Phillies over Tigers in 5.
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Sold. Lackey might not have a messy divorce to deal with anymore, so he could be better next year. And Epstein can rebuild a desolate farm system. And we might throw in Brent Morel too.
Throw in Adam Dunn too....Boston would love him!
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Offering a top tier GM and a top tier coach to the Cubs? HURRY UP AND TAKE IT.
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Meh... No Bucholz or *swallow* Dice-K for most of the year... Riding Tim Wakefield 10 years longer than he should have been on the team, and John Lackey being dog ****...

I think we all saw this coming mid-way through August. The team had nothing left at the end. Theo's fault, mostly. Have to put a lot of it on Tito as well.

And I agree with EE. Glad it happened this way rather than in the playoffs. Spending top dollar for borderline players like Crawford deserves punishment.
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Theo is still a very good GM...but be prepared to pay for his boners for years and years after they don't work out.
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Theo is still a very good GM...but be prepared to pay for his boners for years and years after they don't work out.
He's gone away from what made him good to begin with, though. They just outspend people...reminds me of the Duquette Era.
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Meh... No Bucholz or *swallow* Dice-K for most of the year... Riding Tim Wakefield 10 years longer than he should have been on the team, and John Lackey being dog ****...

I think we all saw this coming mid-way through August. The team had nothing left at the end. Theo's fault, mostly. Have to put a lot of it on Tito as well.
Realistically, I've been kind of angry at Theo since last year. We were supposedly done eating dollars on crappy free agent signings. Crawford I can understand a bit, even though we overpaid BADLY for him. Everyone could see what would happen with Lackey's declining stuff in the AL East though, even if it wasn't supposed to be this bad.

As far as Tito goes, I think it kind of sucks that he never was able to get Crawford into his comfort zone. Crawford admitted the other day that batting in the 6 hole bothered him and he never felt comfortable. There's really not a whole heck of a lot of good about not being able to get a 120M dollar player comfortable in the lineup.


But yeah, **** logic, fire everyone....picks outside the first round, John Lackey, Julio Lugo,ect....
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Outside of the Lackey signing, I can't really fault Theo for anything he's done. Everyone knew he was done for, I still don't know why he did it.
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I wonder how he would do on a lower budget? It seems that most of the things that blew up in his face were free agent signings. He's done great with trades and in drafting. He could always cover up his mistakes in the past, but on a lower budget, he wouldn't make real big mistakes.
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Outside of the Lackey signing, I can't really fault Theo for anything he's done. Everyone knew he was done for, I still don't know why he did it.
I think you can fault what he's done quite a bit. He's done some very good things...but these free agent acquisitions have been absolutely brutal. We've done a good job of developing internally(Although not as good as we want to. We've drafted very well....but we haven't seen a true impact player come up in our system in a few years) and keeping that talent around, but we've consistently ate money on bad contracts and look to be doing that again. That really freaking sucks.
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Honestly, at least the Braves failed slowly tonight. The Sox got knocked out in like 2 minutes.
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I wonder how he would do on a lower budget? It seems that most of the things that blew up in his face were free agent signings. He's done great with trades and in drafting. He could always cover up his mistakes in the past, but on a lower budget, he wouldn't make real big mistakes.
I honestly don't know what to make of that. I can buy that argument, but I can see the other side of it as well.


I would love to keep Theo, ideally...but we REALLY need to re-think how we go about doing things. Just because we've got the cash to make "splashes on the Hot Stove" doesn't mean that we should. Where the blame pie goes on that with Theo, the ownership, and Luchino I'm not sure...but Theo has certainly done a poor job of communicating his better judgement if it does fall somewhere outside of his lap.
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JD Drew signing worked out, Dice-K was working out before injuries ****** him up, and.........stuff. What else is there?
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Well, if Tampa2 was here, I'd give him a congrats.
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