MLB Discussion Thread - Page 775

Jughead10 · 09-30-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

I actually agree with you. I never understood why teams keep so many RP's on the roster in the postseason.

Especially if you have a generally good bullpen. Between Mo, Robertson, and Soriano, the last 3 innings are on lockdown. We have a lefty, a long man. I see no reason to keep both Wade and Ayala. An extra pinch runner just seems more useful. A player like that could win a game late. Wade or Ayala aren't winning anything.

ElectricEye · 09-30-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

It was impossible to fire Torre. But it had to be done. Francona is similar in that I think he's almost been there for too long. Scouts were saying the players were getting fat and having too much control in the locker room.

That actually looks like a potentially major storyline in all of this. It's been floated around for the past month or and laughed off by most of Red Sox fans internet presence...but we've got reports coming out that certain pitchers were drinking in the clubhouse in rather copious amounts. We've also got reports coming out with something along the lines of "The Red Sox have one of the best conditioning staffs in baseball but nobody was willing to use it" and I tend to believe it.

In any case, Tito basically admitted something went really wrong in that clubhouse. By the information trickle coming out, we're going to find out. There was some big blowout after the Beckett ankle game in Toronto supposedly.

Oh, and I really hope we use this to examine the issue of payroll. Only 4 of the 12 teams with a 100M+ payroll actually made the playoffs. Bloated salaries and high priced free agents clearly don't guarantee success.

D-Unit · 09-30-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Borat

Ahhhhhhh hell yea. I'm driving this mofo. D-Unit is riding shotgun. Hop on b!tches.

Pshhh... You were just a yellow bus that said Borat's Bandwagon until I gave you the tires and painted on the Rangers logos. :D

ElectricEye · 09-30-2011, 11:03 AM

Apparently the Tito thing might not be signed and sealed quite yet. Still some life left in that. They had a meeting today. No word on how it went down, but it's possible Tito might be the one who wants out and the Sox are trying to talk him into staying. I'm really 50/50 on this one. He did lose the clubhouse....but we aren't going to find a better manager out there. There's some intriguing options like Dave Martinez...but nothing guaranteed. Bobby Valentine is NOT happening though, contrary to media speculation. He's quite possibly the worst possible fit here.

no bare feet · 09-30-2011, 11:06 AM

I got the BrewCrew in 6 over the Rangers because of this guy:

ImBrotherCain · 09-30-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ElectricEye

Apparently the Tito thing might not be signed and sealed quite yet. Still some life left in that. They had a meeting today. No word on how it went down, but it's possible Tito might be the one who wants out and the Sox are trying to talk him into staying. I'm really 50/50 on this one. He did lose the clubhouse....but we aren't going to find a better manager out there. There's some intriguing options like Dave Martinez...but nothing guaranteed. Bobby Valentine is NOT happening though, contrary to media speculation. He's quite possibly the worst possible fit here.

Lets get John Farrell back!

SickwithIt1010 · 09-30-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Especially if you have a generally good bullpen. Between Mo, Robertson, and Soriano, the last 3 innings are on lockdown. We have a lefty, a long man. I see no reason to keep both Wade and Ayala. An extra pinch runner just seems more useful. A player like that could win a game late. Wade or Ayala aren't winning anything.

Teams keep guys like that in the scenario that they get beat up in a game so that they dont have to burn anyone special.

Jughead10 · 09-30-2011, 11:38 AM

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Teams keep guys like that in the scenario that they get beat up in a game so that they dont have to burn anyone special.

I assume that's why Burnett is here.

Hines · 09-30-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by no bare feet

I got the BrewCrew in 6 over the Rangers because of this guy:

I want to kick him in the nuts and piss on his face.

yo123 · 09-30-2011, 12:15 PM

Why are the Tigers keeping 3 catchers on their playoff roster? And Brad Penny?

Jughead10 · 09-30-2011, 12:20 PM

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Why are the Tigers keeping 3 catchers on their playoff roster? And Brad Penny?

Martinez can't catch really. And you'd lose the DH if he had to.

mqtirishfan · 09-30-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by yo123

Why are the Tigers keeping 3 catchers on their playoff roster? And Brad Penny?

They're using the vaunted baseball strategy of wasting roster spots on people that will never play?

yo123 · 09-30-2011, 12:22 PM

You're right. I guess I'm more confused about Penny.

Xiomera · 09-30-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Martinez can't catch really. And you'd lose the DH if he had to.

Leyland insists he's healthy enough to catch. Inge and Don Kelly could catch if absolutely necessary.

I loathe the decision to put Santon on the roster instead of Danny Worth (who can backup all infield positions and play plus defense at 3B and 2B, also lay down a bunt, pinch run). Santos only plays if Avila gets the bubonic plague and otherwise offers nothing.

Penny is a dumb move too given how terrible he's been and that he is not a reliever in any possible interpretation of what a reliever should be. But Pauley and Below weren't exactly on top of their games lately either.

Ugh.

Xiomera · 09-30-2011, 01:40 PM

My predictions:

Tigers over Yankees in 5
Rangers over Rays in 5

Phillies over Cardinals in 4
Brewers over Diamondbacks in 4

Tigers over Rangers in 7
Phillies over Brewers in 6

Phillies over Tigers in 5 (Damn it)

Giantsfan1080 · 09-30-2011, 01:47 PM

My predictions:

Yankees over Tigers in 5
Rangers over Rays in 4

Phillies over Cardinals in 3
Brewers over D'Backs in 4

Rangers over Yankees in 6
Phillies over Brewers in 6

Phillies over Rangers in 5

Hurricanes25 · 09-30-2011, 01:53 PM

Yankees over Tigers in 5
Rangers over Rays in 4
Phillies over Cardinals in 3
Brewers over Diamondbacks in 5

Yankees over Rangers in 6
Phillies over Brewers in 5

Phillies over Yankees in 6

mqtirishfan · 09-30-2011, 01:59 PM

I'm going Braves over the Red Sox in 6.

Hurricanes25 · 09-30-2011, 02:00 PM

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I'm going Braves over the Red Sox in 6.

Must have slept through all of September...haha

tjsunstein · 09-30-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurricanes25

Must have slept through all of September...haha

I think that was the joke...

Hurricanes25 · 09-30-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tjsunstein

I think that was the joke...

Yeah I know....

Xiomera · 09-30-2011, 02:33 PM

I Think He Was Serious. Everything Is Literal!

yodapoop · 09-30-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Xiomera

My predictions:

Tigers over Yankees in 5
Rangers over Rays in 5

Phillies over Cardinals in 4
Brewers over Diamondbacks in 4

Tigers over Rangers in 7
Phillies over Brewers in 6

Phillies over Tigers in 5 (Damn it)

The only difference we have in outcomes is I got the Tigers beating the Rays, not the Rangers.

Brodeur · 09-30-2011, 03:12 PM

Tigers over Yankees in 4
Rangers over Rays in 4

Phillies over Cards in 3
Brewers over D'Backs in 4

Tigers over Rangers in 6

Brewers over Phillies in 6

Tigers over Brewers in 6

WWWYKI.

Jughead10 · 09-30-2011, 03:24 PM

Tigers over Yankees in 4? Pssh, like you can really beat us twice without Verlander.