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Old 04-16-2010, 11:27 PM    (permalink
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He really is a great defender. He used to be lazy, but the past season a half he's been excellent. Cano winning a gold glove if he has a season like last year would be far from the top of embarassments when it has come to the award.

He's better than Pedroia. Pedroia has the flare for being that gritty player who gets he jersey dirty to make plays. Many of those same plays Cano makes effortless.
Except he's not a great defender. This based on watching him and defensive sabermetrics. He's got a nice arm and looks smooth at the position but his range is bad which is the biggest thing for a middle infielder.

Pedroia destroys him range wise and it's not even close.

It's like people who think Jacoby Ellsbury was a good center fielder. He made a ton of superb plays but it was only because he makes bad reads on the ball and has to make up ground because of it.
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Who did I compare him to? Cano is the only 2B I can have an opinion on and I am saying he is underrated devensively. I never copmared him to anybody else.

Edit: ATL gave me neg rep and apparenty hates me because I think "UZR" is flawed. I guess you can't have your own opinion.


And how do you know how his defense actually stacks up if you only see one person play second base every night? Just because he might not be an atrocity out there, doesn't mean he's a good defender and stacks up very well against the rest of the league.

And I gave you neg rep, because "uh sabermetrics is probably made up by some nerd who doesnt know anything about baseball so they r stupid! lol" is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I've heard. And as already stated, no one really gives a flying **** if you get neg repped.
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And how do you know how his defense actually stacks up if you only see one person play second base every night? Just because he might not be an atrocity out there, doesn't mean he's a good defender and stacks up very well against the rest of the league.

And I gave you neg rep, because "uh sabermetrics is probably made up by some nerd who doesnt know anything about baseball so they r stupid! lol" is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I've heard. And as already stated, no one really gives a flying **** if you get neg repped.
Fair enough. But I didn't say that the person who created sabermetrics was stupid. Please don't put words in my mouth.
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how do the Nats have no fans that are actually willing to go to a baseball game on a sunny Saturday?
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Fair enough. But I didn't say that the person who created sabermetrics was stupid. Please don't put words in my mouth.


You said sabermetrics were pointless, which is similar to stupid in this sense, and what I was referring too.
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how do the Nats have no fans that are actually willing to go to a baseball game on a sunny Saturday?
I would love to live in D.C. (maybe not really that part) just so I could pay like $5 every day to watch a baseball game and sit like where ever I wanted.

Like you said, I don't understand how people just don't want to go watch a ball game on a gorgeous day...for basically free. It baffles me. I would be going all the time just for something to do.
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No Happy Lincecum day from Borat. He's 2-2 with 3 RBI so far to go along with his usual pitching gem.
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And your right, my opinion was supported by nothing but on the flip side, can someone tell me what evidence supports UZR and all of the other sabermetric stats.
Please tell me this was a real question.
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Please tell me this was a real question.
It was a serious question. Who came up with the formula they use and how did they come up with it? All relevant questions.
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It was a serious question. Who came up with the formula they use and how did they come up with it? All relevant questions.
From the guy who created it:

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/..._2003-03-14_0/
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No Happy Lincecum day from Borat. He's 2-2 with 3 RBI so far to go along with his usual pitching gem.
Ooops. Forgot to post it.

Happy BELATED Lincecum Day everybody!

It's an extra-special Lincecum Day since he shoved against the Dodgers.
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The Rays hopes pretty much fall to Pat Burrell. ****.
Pat Burrell just hit a 2-run home run. The end of days is nigh. Someone needs to console me.
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You will be not consoled by anyone because you are undeserving of consolemanship. By the way, I don't think I've seen you post at DRaysBay lately, so did you disappear?
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You will be not consoled by anyone because you are undeserving of consolemanship. By the way, I don't think I've seen you post at DRaysBay lately, so did you disappear?
I posted yesterday. GDTs are now terrible.
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Wow, A's win again. 9-4.They didn't get their 9th win until May 2nd last season. I keep waiting for this bubble to burst. Will Barton continue to hit like this? Lord knows Rosales won't.

And the pitchers are good. But not this good. Team ERA of 2.69. That's performing WELL above the expected. Like 1.20-1.70 better than they should be.
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Yay, we won!
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