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Old 12-08-2011, 10:05 AM    (permalink
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This move should help ease the loss of Jeff Mathis

good work, Arte and Co.!
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With Pujols now gone, do the Cardinals go after Fielder?
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CJ Wilson to Angels for 5 years/$75 million

this is just freakin amazing
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Signing a 25 year old Miguel Cabrera to an 8 year/$153.3 million contract, three years before this future debacle.



PS: Votto is still better.
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lol at trying to compare a signing that happened years ago

Angels Got Vlad for 5yr/$75 million in 2004 when he was in his prime and clearly one of the 3 best players in baseball. They just signed Wilson for that same amount

Cabrera would be making a ton more if he were a FA right now

but yes that is a great deal for M-cab. Evan Longoria's deal is just sexy, though
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Albert, you are a douche bag. I hate when **** like this happens. Just stay home. You just won a WS, stay there.
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Lets not act like you guys wouldn't take 30 plus million more to leave ST. LOUIS for California. We're not even sure the offer that the Cardinals made, but there are reports that the offer wasn't even for 220.
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Hurts the Rangers more than it helps the Angels, imo. I don't think Wilson is that good.
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Lets not act like you guys wouldn't take 30 plus million more to leave ST. LOUIS for California. We're not even sure the offer that the Cardinals made, but there are reports that the offer wasn't even for 220.
I like to think other people have lots of the same values as me, such as loyalty. But that is too much to ask of most people I suppose.
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Loyalty is nice. But $40M+ to move from St Louis (a total shithole city) to California, while still being with a quality team... no brainer.
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Hurts the Rangers more than it helps the Angels, imo. I don't think Wilson is that good.
I actually don't think this was that great of a move for the Angels. So I'm not that mad. The Rangers are already priming up for Darvish and Cespedes. The only question now is if this will motivate them into pursuing Prince Fielder. :)

Pujols will hurt the Angels down the line. 10 years is a death sentence.
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Hurts the Rangers more than it helps the Angels, imo. I don't think Wilson is that good.
but he is

He's been one of the better pitchers in baseball the last 2 years and his pitches grade out well

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doubt it. Clearly the Angels have the payroll to support it and he'll likely make them a tooooon of money back in the process. With the Dodgers situation, the Angels new TV deal...they are looking primed to take over the LA Market

jersey sales + tv ratings, etc. HE's going to be a beast for at least the next 6 years
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I like to think other people have lots of the same values as me, such as loyalty. But that is too much to ask of most people I suppose.
Tell me more about your loyalty next time you get offered $30 million more to move from St. Louis to Los Angeles.
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but he is

He's been one of the better pitchers in baseball the last 2 years and his pitches grade out well
He is a good, but not great regular season pitcher. In the playoffs, he is not good. The Rangers are 3-7 in his starts with his record sitting at 1-5. He averages just over 5 innings per start with an ERA pushing 5.


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Pujols will hurt the Angels down the line. 10 years is a death sentence.
Down the line it might hurt. But with that pitching staff and Pujols improving the hitting, the Angels could definitely win a World Series or two during this contract. I'm sure most Angels fans would take a World Series or two even if in eight years, their team sucks for a few years. I think this is a great signing.
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He is a good, but not great regular season pitcher. In the playoffs, he is not good. The Rangers are 3-7 in his starts with his record sitting at 1-5. He averages just over 5 innings per start with an ERA pushing 5.
I don't pay much mind to these postseason sample sizes. I just don't. Arod sucks in the playoffs to, yet during their WS in 2009 he was great. Any player/pitcher can stink it up in a handful of AB's or 2-3 starts. It happens.

I'm not worried about that from Wilson, honestly. He isn't an ace....but the ANgels didn't pay him as one. He got less than what AJ Burnett and John Lackey got. I like this deal a lot. I thought for sure he'd get 6 years and at least $90 million from some team(and perhaps the Marlins offered that, but he chose to stay close to home)
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With a significantly higher BABIP...
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Is it time for the Angels vs Rangers rivalry to trump the Yankees vs Redsox?

I THINK SO!!!!! hahahahahahahahahhaahah!
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Albert, you are a douche bag. I hate when **** like this happens. Just stay home. You just won a WS, stay there.
He isn't from St.Louis or Missouri, so it isn't his "home". He took a cheaper deal last time. He owes the Cardinals nothing, good for Albert getting his money.
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I don't pay much mind to these postseason sample sizes. I just don't. Arod sucks in the playoffs to, yet during their WS in 2009 he was great. Any player/pitcher can stink it up in a handful of AB's or 2-3 starts. It happens.

I'm not worried about that from Wilson, honestly. He isn't an ace....but the ANgels didn't pay him as one. He got less than what AJ Burnett and John Lackey got. I like this deal a lot. I thought for sure he'd get 6 years and at least $90 million from some team(and perhaps the Marlins offered that, but he chose to stay close to home)
I like you. Post more often in this thread because I find myself agreeing with you on mostly everything.
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I was expecting at least a post from Hines about how he has big expectations for the Pirates rule 5 pick and/or a full analysis from Fisch on the winners/losers.

I am disappointed. I guess the Pujols contract trumps all today.
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I didn't know you could trade your Rule 5 pick for another. BoSox apparently just did it.
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A Mets RP was selected #1 overall by the Astros. He throws hard but command is an issue. We'll see if he sticks.
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