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Old 12-22-2011, 05:31 PM    (permalink
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Loving the Gio trade. My only minor complaint is that it's mostly pitchers when we really need hitters. But still, wow.
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Logan Morrison @LoMoMarlins 15m
Just heard from my boy that Prince to Seattle is a done deal...

Interesting.
Dont know if it happens, but its interesting
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hahha Logan was trolling.

Also, good haul for Oakland but man, they traded Cahill and Gio and didn't really get any legit bats back which is something they really need. They are ripe with pitching now but have nothing on offense. Not really sure I like that too much for them when it comes down to it
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So who got the better deal for thier "Ace" Reds or Nats?
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I don't think its even a question in my mind... Reds
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Just heard from my boy that Prince to Seattle is a done deal...

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So the question after this Gio trade becomes:

Who are the top draft prospects for 2013? Because we know the A's are going to have a top 3 pick in that draft with the roster they have for next year.

And please don't name a dozen pitching prospects. The A's need hitting.
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http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/73...-two-year-deal

Beltran to the Cards. 2 years 26 mill.

Berkman to first, Beltran in right. Sounds right to me.
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Love the Beltran move. If nothing else, he is on our team so he can NO longer own our asses. And on a positive note, he doesn't have to face the Wainwright curve ball!
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So the question after this Gio trade becomes:

Who are the top draft prospects for 2013? Because we know the A's are going to have a top 3 pick in that draft with the roster they have for next year.

And please don't name a dozen pitching prospects. The A's need hitting.
Who knows but it'll between the Mets and A's for sure.
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Love the Beltran move. If nothing else, he is on our team so he can NO longer own our asses. And on a positive note, he doesn't have to face the Wainwright curve ball!
As long as his knee is healthy it's a good deal.
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So with this acquisition, what is the Cards projected lineup for next year?
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So who got the better deal for thier "Ace" Reds or Nats?

I think in the end the Reds will have given up more talent....but Latos is a better pitcher than Gio Gonzalez

so uh, I guess the Reds. I really like Alonso/Grandal a lot though, and I think Volquez is gonna own in PETCO Park. And hell, I can easily see Boxberger becoming the Pads next closer with Bell gone

both Oakland/SD can't really complain with the returns they got. A's got a great return, I just wish they would have ended up with more legit hitting prospects for Cahill/Gio than what they got.
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Dave Sappelt and Ronald Torreyes the two included in the Marshall trade. Sappelt has been disappointing in the bigs, looks way over powered. Torreyes has potential but is tiny.
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2012 salaries

Carlos Beltran = $13M
Aaron Rowand = $12M to NOT play for the Giants

**** you Sabean. Seriously. How can someone be so bad at this?
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Would have liked Carlos to go to an AL team, but he'll fit in nicely in STL.
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Dombrowski needs to do something. All he's done is sign Gerald Laird.
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This last Reds trade sucks. Gave up three players with potential for a relief pitcher.
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An elite reliever who can throw about 100 innings a year.
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An elite reliever who can throw about 100 innings a year.
Threw about 75 the past two years.

The Reds still gave up a potential middle of the rotation starter, a second baseman with decent upside and an MLB ready outfielder. And they will probably have Marshall for only one year.
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**** you Sabean. Seriously. How can someone be so bad at this?
he went to the Dayton Moore school of GM'ing
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Threw about 75 the past two years.

The Reds still gave up a potential middle of the rotation starter, a second baseman with decent upside and an MLB ready outfielder. And they will probably have Marshall for only one year.
I will miss Wood.
Sappelt is alright. MLB ready? As a fourth outfielder.
Torreyes is a dwarf. Im not sure how he translates as he climbs the ladder. 5'9 140.

But if Marshall puts our pen over the top it is worth it.

Cueto - Latos - Leake - Bailey/Chapman - Arroyo

All we need to add is a LF who can hit lefties better.
Heisey hits RHP better than LHP.
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I think in the end the Reds will have given up more talent....but Latos is a better pitcher than Gio Gonzalez

so uh, I guess the Reds. I really like Alonso/Grandal a lot though, and I think Volquez is gonna own in PETCO Park. And hell, I can easily see Boxberger becoming the Pads next closer with Bell gone

both Oakland/SD can't really complain with the returns they got. A's got a great return, I just wish they would have ended up with more legit hitting prospects for Cahill/Gio than what they got.
They can get hitting if they pawn of Andrew Bailey. I know the Rangers are still trying.
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