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Old 04-02-2012, 05:37 PM    (permalink) 
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I didn't say it was worse than those contracts. Just because 2 others teams made dumb decisions doesn't take anything away from Cincy also making one.
I see is as the going rate.

Votto's deal will reportedly be for 10 years $200 million. If that's true, the Reds got a steal. He obviously took less money to stay in Cincy.
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Matt Cain getting a higher per year average than Joey Votto....
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lol how nice would it be to have him to fall flat and be another Barry Zito
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The Reds and Joey Votto have agreed to a ten-year contract extension worth $225MM, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today. The deal will keep him in Cincinnati through 2023.
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Duel to the death.
How about we just agree he is the biggest non-Reds Votto fan?
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And he signed in Cincy to avoid going back....
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I'm sorry but Ohio is awful.
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Apparently better than being in Toronto
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Apparently better than Canada.
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No one wants to live in Ohio. Ask Lebron. and I agree Toronto is awful!

Don't make me team up with Brody.
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No one wants to live in Ohio. Ask Lebron. and I agree Toronto is awful!

Don't make me team up with Brody.
That's Cleveland.
Totally different.
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Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that that the Reds and Joey Votto have agreed to a 10-year, $225 million extension.
It's a massive financial commitment on the part of the small-market Reds and surpasses Prince Fielder's contract ($213 million) for the fourth-richest in MLB history. According to Nightengale, the deal doesn't replace his existing contract and runs from 2014-2023, which runs contrary to earlier speculation. It would also keep Votto in a Reds' uniform until he turns 40. The deal includes a full-no trade clause.
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I got offered this trade:


I get:

Andrew McCutchen
Chase Utley
Justin Monrneau
Kendrys Morales
Josh Beckett
Brandon Morros

They get:

Coco Crisp
Michael Bourn
Clayton Kershaw


I know Utley is out for a bit and Morneau hasn't been the same, but does this look like a good deal to you? My other outfielders are Bret Gardner, Jay Bruce, and Jason Heyward. I have Miggy at first and Freddie Freeman when Miggy's eligible to go to third. I already have Pedroia at second.

My pitching rotation is pretty good. Outside of Kershaw, I have Haren, Shields, Zimmerman, and Scherzer.


Should I do it?
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I get:

Andrew McCutchen
Chase Utley
Justin Monrneau
Kendrys Morales
Josh Beckett
Brandon Morros

They get:

Coco Crisp
Michael Bourn
Clayton Kershaw


I know Utley is out for a bit and Morneau hasn't been the same, but does this look like a good deal to you? My other outfielders are Bret Gardner, Jay Bruce, and Jason Heyward. I have Miggy at first and Freddie Freeman when Miggy's eligible to go to third. I already have Pedroia at second.

My pitching rotation is pretty good. Outside of Kershaw, I have Haren, Shields, Zimmerman, and Scherzer.


Should I do it?
One category steals guys in Bourne and Crisp vs A well rounded McCutchen

Kershaw vs 4 high risk injury type guys.

I absolutely hate taking on unbalanced trades. I'd rather trim some fat off of that deal, however I have no value whatsoever in Bourne and Crisp because they are easily replaced throughout the season.

Recommendation: Take Kershaw out of the deal and have them drop the list of garbage guys. Just do a Bourne and Crisp for Cutch. You already have Gardener and unless you are playing 5 outfielders and need some ungodly amount of steals, they are expendable in your pursuit of one of your favorite players.
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Mark Melancon or Alfredo Aceves who is gonna be BOS CL???
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Melancon. They are saying that Aceves might spot start for Beckett who is recovering from his own thumb injury.
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dammit, that sucks because I like Melancon and don't want to see him do well for the red sox.

also, I don't like Votto because in the last baseball video game I played, he beat out Shelley Duncan on my team for Rookie of the Year and ever since them I have disliked him.

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