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I'd rather have McKelvin than a future pick, and it might make more sense for the Bills as well.
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McKelvin and a 2nd or 3rd?
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Don't be surprised to see Gaither just moved for like a future 2nd.
that is my thinking to, the due is in for a huge pay day and looks like BAL doesn't want to pay it.
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Are the Bills even willing to trade McKelvin?
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I assume if we traded gaither for a player it would be a CB, and Byrd is obviously off limits. But who knows exactly what we will get, maybe just next years first
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The Bills are pushing hard for both Gaither and Thigpen from the Dolphins.
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A future second I can live with. I don't want McKelvin in the division unless it's to the Steelers. :D
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I assume if we traded gaither for a player it would be a CB, and Byrd is obviously off limits. But who knows exactly what we will get, maybe just next years first
Byrd played FS last year....and no way will they give up a top 10 pick next year for him.
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Byrd played FS last year....and no way will they give up a top 10 pick next year for him.
Yeah, I don't see the interest we would have in Byrd anyhow. I'd go for McKelvin and something like a 4th. There really aren't many players on the Bills roster I could see us being interested in. Hopefully it's not a trade just for picks if/when it happens.
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I still think 2011 2nd rounder is most likely. Maybe an extra 5th at most. The only other player the Ravens might be interested in is Lee Evans but the Bills have too few weapons to let him go. He would be sick though stretching the field for the Ravens, but that's not gonna happen.
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man... I feel a 2nd is still too low. I still think he's worth a 1st rounder.


and if/when we do trade him, our offensive line depth is going to be garbage.

Yanda will have to move to RT, so Chester will be at guard. Leaving Cousins as our only tackle backup with experience and maybe David Hale and Ramon Harewood as backups. Any injury to our line this year, and we're ******.
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Like it or not, Cousins would definitely get the nod at RT. The coaching staff likes him and that's why they played him there last season instead of moving Yanda out and starting Chester at G. Yanda isn't a good tackle at all and we're worse off with him on the outside than Cousins.

LT: Oher, Moll
LG: Grubbs
C: Birk, Hale
RG: Yanda, Chester
RT: Cousins, Harewood

Still not bad, especially when comparing with other teams. Hale and Chester can play any of the interior OL spots. Harewood would have a much better shot at making the roster IMO and I think he's worth keeping on the roster in that case, but Moll is worrisome as the backup LT. But, we're putting all our chips on Oher so there's always going to be consequences we're going to have to deal with.
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Evans makes a LOT of money, I don't know how interested they'd be in that. And I'm sure we'd be even less interested in letting him go.
McKelvin probably wouldn't happen, either, even if I think he's only our 3rd best corner and 5th best defensive back (at the moment).
Pick(s) for Gaither I can live with, and be quite happy with.
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Lee Evans and a 2nd round pick for Jared Gaither and I'm happy.
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I have heard some people claim Gaither had work ethic issues, but I never saw a Ravens fan post that. Has anyone heard that?
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I guess it may be true. I mean, someone with that size and physical tools should be a top 5 tackle right now. He's not. Give someone like Michael Oher his size and athletic ability and Oher would be a consensus pro bowler year in and out.

It is somewhat sad that he is taking forever to develop but I never heard anything about his work ethic issues. Just guessin.
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Oher would be the best T ever if he morphed w/ Gaither. But yes Gaither isnt top 5, but he is still a top 10 LT.
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I can't believe we are going to get rid of the best offensive tackle tandem is the league. The same tandem that kept Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis at 0 Tackles 0 Sacks.

It's gonna hurt, but finances always play into football, (as football is a business) so things like this are bound to happen. It's going to take some transitioning, but we'll be fine.

So, (if we do indeed trade him) next years draft we'll be looking at CB, C, and OT. FS, WR, and LB will be later round needs.

this sucks. :(
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Like it or not, Cousins would definitely get the nod at RT. The coaching staff likes him and that's why they played him there last season instead of moving Yanda out and starting Chester at G. Yanda isn't a good tackle at all and we're worse off with him on the outside than Cousins.
Explain this, Yanda was an excellent RT his rookie year.
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Explain this, Yanda was an excellent RT his rookie year.
I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here, what I saw from him was nothing but average. Especially now after his knee injury against the Colts he just doesn't have the ability to play on the outside. There's a reason why we played Cousins at RT last season instead of moving Yanda out and starting Chester at guard (who started there earlier in the season while Yanda was still recovering). I'll keep saying it again and again, especially since every game mattered in our playoff hunt.
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I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here, what I saw from him was nothing but average. Especially now after his knee injury against the Colts he just doesn't have the ability to play on the outside. There's a reason why we played Cousins at RT last season instead of moving Yanda out and starting Chester at guard (who started there earlier in the season while Yanda was still recovering). I'll keep saying it again and again, especially since every game mattered in our playoff hunt.
I think that has more to do with Chester than Yanda.
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I wouldnt say excellent RT, he was average. I still like him at RG the best.


Maybe we could work out a package where we get there 1st round pick. Like Gaither and a 2nd or something for there 1st. Chances are the Bills will be picking top 5.
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