Baltimore Ravens Discussion - Page 49

trkaline · 09-19-2010, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BmoreBlackByrdz

IDK guys, Cincy needs the win more, Carson has always had success vs. us, their at home, (desperate) and have the weapons to rip our secondary apart.

Actually I think we need the win more, those bastards beat us twice last year... We demand satisfaction.

GoRavens · 09-19-2010, 10:02 AM

6 - 3
10 - 7
14 - 7
3 - 0
SCORE WILL = 33 to 17 ravens!

Ravens1991 · 09-19-2010, 01:06 PM

wow we are getting owned on Offense. Flacco and Cameron are not impressing me so far.

SeanTaylorRIP · 09-19-2010, 01:36 PM

I'm telling you Joe Flacco has been looking like Jason Campbell this year. Horrible footwork and so indecisive in the pocket. The pressure isn't even bad. Run the fcking ball!!

America · 09-19-2010, 01:44 PM

So I guess Flacco regressed....

coordinator0 · 09-19-2010, 02:04 PM

Cam Cameron, you have Ray Rice. Use him please or GTFO!!!

Ravens1991 · 09-19-2010, 03:13 PM

wow. what a bad showing, not only from Flacco but from every WR. No one got open for gods sake. Also Run the ball fr crying out loud. seriously WTF Cameron.

SeanTaylorRIP · 09-19-2010, 03:14 PM

The wideouts are getting ok separation but Flacco never delivers on time he always holds so that the defense has recovery time. He's just like Carson Palmer.

BigDawg819 · 09-19-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

wow. what a bad showing, not only from Flacco but from every WR. No one got open for gods sake. Also Run the ball fr crying out loud. seriously WTF Cameron.

NO WAY YOU BLAME THE WR'S FOR FLACCO ******* SUCKING!

This is all on this piece of **** QB play.

BigDawg819 · 09-19-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

The wideouts are getting ok separation but Flacco never delivers on time he always holds so that the defense has recovery time. He's just like Carson Palmer.

Not to mention he's timid in the pocket, he wants to be a statue back there, refuses to step into a throw and is constantly throwing off his back foot. This is all on Flacco

Ravens1991 · 09-19-2010, 03:18 PM

The Bengals D also played great. But that is one thing Flacco needs to step up into the pocket more often.

Ravens1991 · 09-19-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDawg819

NO WAY YOU BLAME THE WR'S FOR FLACCO ******* SUCKING!

This is all on this piece of **** QB play.

I admit Flacco sucked. But the WRs didnt do there best either. For example. Housh dropping 3 passes that woudl have been 1st downs.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 09-19-2010, 04:20 PM

the whole offense played awful.

Especially the Flacco and the WR's

when your defense doesn't give up a TD the whole game, I can't see how you don't win.

Given, Cincy's corner's are great, Flacco and the offense needs to get it together. Cameron's play calling doesn't help either. He's way too pass happy(as we all know)

As for Mattison, his blitzes suck. We rarely get past opposing o-lines. props to the defense for overcoming ****** play calling.

Now, let's not get hyped up if/when Flacco tears up the Browns next week, I want to see him produce vs. a good team.

Ravens1991 · 09-19-2010, 04:24 PM

Rice looked good though.

It seemed like Flacco regressed a little.

Ravens1991 · 09-19-2010, 04:57 PM

Also Chester sucks at pass blocking. We need Gaither back and Yanda at RG as well.

coordinator0 · 09-19-2010, 06:10 PM

I can't put the whole blame on Flacco. For me it's on him, Cameron, and the offensive line. Flacco played badly that was plain to see. He needs to get rid of the football quicker and/or read the defense better.

Cameron called a pretty poor game-plan, we shouldn't have been attacking the defensive backs in the passing game rather he should have called more plays to get the TEs more looks. That facet of the passing game was working better than the others and I don't know why we didn't see more of it. Not to mention Ray Rice on the ground, Cameron goes away from the run far too often for my liking.

The offensive line just doesn't seem to have it together right now. I don't know if they're still adjusting to Oher as the full-time LT or if having Chester and Yanda both starting on the right side is screwing up the chemistry, but they haven't been good thus far. I think Yanda at RG and Cousins at RT would have been a better unit, but w/e.

RavenMadness · 09-19-2010, 08:15 PM

Nobody believed me when I said Flacco sucks....

SeanTaylorRIP · 09-19-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RavenMadness

Nobody believed me when I said Flacco sucks....

He doesn't suck, he's still a capable franchise QB. He just isn't anywhere near a top 10 NFL QB. He's a middle of the pack type QB at the current. Insane physical tools but the QB mind and footwork of a high schooler. Give him some time. Now if he starts sucking against teams like the Browns, then yeah.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 09-19-2010, 08:34 PM

yeah, I mean playing 3 of the leagues best defenses in the first 4 weeks isn't the easiest task for a 3rd year QB. The season is just beginning and lets give Flacco a bit more time before bagging him like this. (I'm pretty sure we can all agree that he isn't on the Mannings, Brees, Brady level, not even on the Schaub, Rodgers, Rivers, level) but he's still our QB and our future.

The offense's talent is clearly there, we just need to gel over time and get things together, and Cam needs to realize that Joe Flacco isn't another Phillip Rivers or Aaron Rodgers... WE CAN'T THROW THE BALL 40 TIMES!!! not when we have a RB like Rice and a o-line like ours.

and BigDawg, why are you so quick to blame "all of this" on Flacco? you stuck by your boy Boller for the longest time, and now after 2 games vs. 2 great defenses, you're blaming Flacco for the whole game?

coordinator0 · 09-19-2010, 08:35 PM

I wouldn't say the mind/footwork of a high schooler, but STRIP pretty much has it right. He was pretty raw coming in to the NFL so I'll give him that, but he's in his third year now so he better start progressing in the decision-making department.

Hines · 09-19-2010, 08:36 PM

Want to trade Cam Cameron for Bruce Arians since we both hate our OC's?

BigDawg819 · 09-19-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BmoreBlackByrdz

yeah, I mean playing 3 of the leagues best defenses in the first 4 weeks isn't the easiest task for a 3rd year QB. The season is just beginning and lets give Flacco a bit more time before bagging him like this. (I'm pretty sure we can all agree that he isn't on the Mannings, Brees, Brady level, not even on the Schaub, Rodgers, Rivers, level) but he's still our QB and our future.

The offense's talent is clearly there, we just need to gel over time and get things together, and Cam needs to realize that Joe Flacco isn't another Phillip Rivers or Aaron Rodgers... WE CAN'T THROW THE BALL 40 TIMES!!! not when we have a RB like Rice and a o-line like ours.

and BigDawg, why are you so quick to blame "all of this" on Flacco? you stuck by your boy Boller for the longest time, and now after 2 games vs. 2 great defenses, you're blaming Flacco for the whole game?

It was clearly on Joe this game as well as last game. He's the one with the horrible footwork, he's the one overthrowing receivers, he's the one letting 3 and 4 man rushes sack him in the pocket, he's the one that looks utterly dazed and confused out there. Thats no one else's fault but his and his alone. You guys need to let this Boller **** go because this is an entirely different situation. Flacco is blowing it big time on his own. He has the talent around him and now he's ******** the bed.

Ravens1991 · 09-19-2010, 10:29 PM

still it isnt Flaccos fault that Hoosh dropped 3 long passes. I am not saying it isnt flaccos fault because we all know Flacco sucked today. But the play calling was pathetic and the WRs could have done better.

Also I am wondering this, w/ these coaches like Cameron, Zorn and Al Saunders being a offensive assistant I could see that being a ego warfare in a offensive meeting and Flacco being told 3 different things.

SeanTaylorRIP · 09-19-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

still it isnt Flaccos fault that Hoosh dropped 3 long passes. I am not saying it isnt flaccos fault because we all know Flacco sucked today. But the play calling was pathetic and the WRs could have done better.

Also I am wondering this, w/ these coaches like Cameron, Zorn and Al Saunders being a offensive assistant I could see that being a ego warfare in a offensive meeting and Flacco being told 3 different things.

That's true but just like Jason Campbell everyone always made the excuse of him having a billion different offensive coordinators and it meessing with his mind. Same with Flacco I get the bad play calling and conficting advice, but at the end of the day you can't look past the poor footwork, poor pocket prescesense, indecisive decision making, and inability to step in the pocket. These are things a QB must work on himself regardless of playcalling. Like I said before Flacco still has potential to be really good if he improves these things, but he's not ready to lead the team right now. The Ravens need to go back to smash mouth football 40-50 carries a game between the 3 RB's and Flacco as a supplement. As it is now Rice is a supplement to Flacco and the passing game but they aren't good enough to win games against good competition.

BigDawg819 · 09-19-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

still it isnt Flaccos fault that Hoosh dropped 3 long passes. I am not saying it isnt flaccos fault because we all know Flacco sucked today. But the play calling was pathetic and the WRs could have done better.

Also I am wondering this, w/ these coaches like Cameron, Zorn and Al Saunders being a offensive assistant I could see that being a ego warfare in a offensive meeting and Flacco being told 3 different things.

Still doesn't explain why he's over throwing everyone, horrible in the pocket, looking lost out there, not making plays, not being mobile, has no touch on any of his throws etc etc etc