Baltimore Ravens Discussion - Page 55

Giantsfan1080 · 09-30-2010, 04:00 PM

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Wow that's crazy I've completely forgotten about Plax as a whole and forgot he was still in jail. When is he eligible for release? Not that he has an NFL job waiting for him.

I think he had a year sentence. He's applied for work release 2 or 3 times already and they've denied him.

EdReedUnstoppable · 09-30-2010, 06:57 PM

Is anyone else thinking the Ravens pulled this thing with Pryce to try to force Kruger onto the field? I know why they say they did it, so they could sign Ken Hamlin but there were other moves that could have been made if that was truly the case. I think this is a ploy by JH and The Genius to try to be able to say "Kruger can make the active roster".

Ravens1991 · 09-30-2010, 07:09 PM

IDK Pryce didnt even take his stuff out of his locker because I guess they told him that he will be back.

But then again IDK why we even brought Hamlin back, they said for special teams, but did he make a special teams play?

I know Zbi got knicked up a little, but we got Nakamura who can go back to S because WIlliams is back and WIlson has more time in the system.

It maybe honestly IDK.

Now say if Kruger is inactive again I will be suspicious.

Ravens1991 · 09-30-2010, 07:27 PM

**** you Bart Scott

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“I guarantee you that there’s probably guys in the same spot right now jealous as hell,” Scott said. “Trevor probably gets texts like, ‘Man, come get me too.’ I guarantee you there’s at least 15 other players over there that’s praying to God that they get released for a half a day too, so they can come over here. They won’t admit it. But I guarantee you.”

he needs to **** and stop talking about us. He is just bitter we signed Ray and Suggs over him.

the abbreviation for shut the **** up is edited out now, damn.

TACKLE · 10-01-2010, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

**** you Bart Scott

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“I guarantee you that there’s probably guys in the same spot right now jealous as hell,” Scott said. “Trevor probably gets texts like, ‘Man, come get me too.’ I guarantee you there’s at least 15 other players over there that’s praying to God that they get released for a half a day too, so they can come over here. They won’t admit it. But I guarantee you.”

he needs to **** and stop talking about us. He is just bitter we signed Ray and Suggs over him.

the abbreviation for shut the **** up is edited out now, damn.

Yeah **** Bart. I absolutely can't stand him since he's went to the Jets. The Ravens didn't even want him. He talks so much **** yet he doesn't realize that at no point in his career, has he been the best LB on his team. I still think its hilarious that he's the reason Kris Jenkins tore his ACL and his out for the season. Bart was getting bitched by Oher as he got pancaked into Jenkins knee.

bam bam · 10-01-2010, 03:38 AM

Pryce is definitely no big loss at all. And who cares what Bart Scott says?

Hines · 10-01-2010, 10:37 AM

I'll propose this again, anyone want to do a sig/avy bet?

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 10-01-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

I'll propose this again, anyone want to do a sig/avy bet?

We can do something.

Hines · 10-01-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES

We can do something.

I'll PM when I get home from class.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 10-01-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bam bam

Pryce is definitely no big loss at all. And who cares what Bart Scott says?

yeah, whatever comes out of Bart Scott's mouth is irrelevant to me. That guy has signs of mental retardation.

As for the loss of Pryce, it won't hurt much. He was in on many plays when Peyton Hillis ripped us for big gains. He was turning into a liability vs the run and he wasn't the pass rusher he used to be.

I think the Jet's rushed to sign him for the sole reason that they wanted to steal him from us and the fact that Rex Ryan obviously doesn't like us. They should have looked at the signing from a football standpoint/perspective before they signed him.

Ravens1991 · 10-01-2010, 02:44 PM

**** Scott and **** Rex. Its that simple they never wanted to leave bmore in the first place. When we fired billick Rex lost his mind because he thought he would be bumped up to HC but we decided to go out of house. The cops had to escort him out.

Scott called us up and said if we match the jets offer he will come back. We are smart enough to not throw 48 million to just an above average MLB.

They should get some class and at least respect the team they made their name at.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 10-01-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

**** Scott and **** Rex. Its that simple they never wanted to leave bmore in the first place. When we fired billick Rex lost his mind because he thought he would be bumped up to HC but we decided to go out of house. The cops had to escort him out.

Scott called us up and said if we match the jets offer he will come back. We are smart enough to not throw 48 million to just an above average MLB.

They should get some class and at least respect the team they made their name at.

and they can't even run a classy franchise themselves. Rex had an incident at a fight over the summer, they give Braylon Edwards a slap on the wrist after getting caught with a DUI or DWI. They sexually harassed a female reporter that was in there facility. They have no class, just a bunch of big mouths that give up on there team when they do bad and run there mouths when everything is looking good.

Me and many other Raven fans all hate the Steelers, but at least we can respect them as a team and rival, they are a first class franchise and the Rooney's do a great job there, the same cannot be said for the Jets.

AHungryWalrus · 10-02-2010, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BmoreBlackByrdz

and they can't even run a classy franchise themselves. Rex had an incident at a fight over the summer, they give Braylon Edwards a slap on the wrist after getting caught with a DUI or DWI. They sexually harassed a female reporter that was in there facility. They have no class, just a bunch of big mouths that give up on there team when they do bad and run there mouths when everything is looking good.

Me and many other Raven fans all hate the Steelers, but at least we can respect them as a team and rival, they are a first class franchise and the Rooney's do a great job there, the same cannot be said for the Jets.

Whoa whoa whoa. I came in here because I wanted to see what was being said about losing Pryce yesterday, and people ripped on the Jets, but most of it was legit. This is too far though.

Rex's incident was ridiculous, and not even an incident. A man followed him around harassing and yelling obscenities at him, and Rex removed himself from the situation a few times without saying or doing anything. The man proceeded to continue yelling at him. In the end, Rex gave him the finger. A pretty mild reaction considering.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/0...confrontation/

The Bray-Bray situation, we aren't even supposed to be punishing him. Us sitting him a quarter was still in direct violation of the CBA, and had Braylon wanted to, he could have complained. All substance abuse issues are handled by the league. Once again. The CBA directly states we're not supposed to punish him. We still did. Didn't have to do anything.

And, finally, the reporter being "sexually harassed", look into it a little more. Seriously. I mean, not cool that it happened, but it is one of the most overblown situations I have seen in a while.

http://mediastrut.com/2010/09/14/jet...er-ines-sainz/

Edit* And no one has ever given up on our team. After the Falcons loss, Rex thought we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. He said that we were out of the race. He never gave up. Just thought we were legitimately out. Which he later found out we weren't. Rex may be bad at math, but he's not a quitter.

AHungryWalrus · 10-02-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BmoreBlackByrdz

I think the Jet's rushed to sign him for the sole reason that they wanted to steal him from us and the fact that Rex Ryan obviously doesn't like us. They should have looked at the signing from a football standpoint/perspective before they signed him.

We signed him because we struggle badly to get to the quarterback, even when we send 5+. Our run defense is good enough, we just can't generate pressure. That's why we signed him.

Rex definitely still likes the Ravens. He talks glowingly of Reed, Lewis, Harbaugh, Newsome, etc.

coordinator0 · 10-02-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AHungryWalrus

We signed him because we struggle badly to get to the quarterback, even when we send 5+. Our run defense is good enough, we just can't generate pressure. That's why we signed him.

Rex definitely still likes the Ravens. He talks glowingly of Reed, Lewis, Harbaugh, Newsome, etc.

We suffer from the same problem, although we rarely send more than 4 guys after the QB. Perhaps Pryce benefits from a change of scenery, but he's just not the same player that he even was last year. I'm not really worried about losing him, it's time to get the young guys reps along the DL.

Ravens1991 · 10-02-2010, 02:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCN_y...eature=related

Steelers HOF Rod Woodson admitted Reed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Troy P

BigDawg819 · 10-02-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCN_y...eature=related

Steelers HOF Rod Woodson admitted Reed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Troy P

Ugh I'm tired of this nonsense. Rod said it best, Troy is the more complete Safety based on his work around the line of scrimmage but isn't as fluid in coverage. Ed Reed is the best, when healthy, because he is just out of this world in what he can do to disrupt the best QB's in this game and when he gets the ball in his hands he's always a threat to go to the house.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 10-02-2010, 05:11 PM

It's clear we need him back too. Sure, were the #1 ranked pass defense, but we have ZERO interceptions.. that's unheard of from a Baltimore Ravens defense.

Ravens1991 · 10-02-2010, 05:19 PM

yea but our pass D is #1 that is impressive.

BigDawg819 · 10-02-2010, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

yea but our pass D is #1 that is impressive.

Really?

Mark Sanchez - Nobody understands the Jets gameplan from that game

Carson Palmer - well documented that he's just not a very good QB

Seneca Wallace - needs no explanation

Our pass D is #1 almost by default because frankly nothing I've seen has been that impressive. We don't pressure the QB effectively, we're not creating turnovers, we are basically lucky that the schedule started cupcake-esque.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 10-02-2010, 05:36 PM

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Really?

Mark Sanchez - Nobody understands the Jets gameplan from that game

Carson Palmer - well documented that he's just not a very good QB

Seneca Wallace - needs no explanation

Our pass D is #1 almost by default because frankly nothing I've seen has been that impressive. We don't pressure the QB effectively, we're not creating turnovers, we are basically lucky that the schedule started cupcake-esque.

It is impressive. Considering how everyone was saying that our secondary was going to be the Achilles heel of this team, when it's actually held it's own against names like Ocho Cinco, Braylon Edwards, Owens, Gresham, Shipley, Keller, and Massaquoi.

Adding Wilson was a great move, Carr is playing well, and Fabian has really stepped up in place of Foxworth. It's not the secondary's fault that there is no pressure, you should be giving them credit for holding strong w/ the lack of pressure, not blaming them for it.

Sure, they haven't got any interceptions, but it's not easy when QB's have all day to throw.

Ravens1991 · 10-02-2010, 05:40 PM

at least Suggs has improved form last year.

BigDawg819 · 10-02-2010, 05:43 PM

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It is impressive. Considering how everyone was saying that our secondary was going to be the Achilles heel of this team, when it's actually held it's own against names like Ocho Cinco, Braylon Edwards, Owens, Gresham, Shipley, Keller, and Massaquoi.

Adding Wilson was a great move, Carr is playing well, and Fabian has really stepped up in place of Foxworth. It's not the secondary's fault that there is no pressure, you should be giving them credit for holding strong w/ the lack of pressure, not blaming them for it.

Sure, they haven't got any interceptions, but it's not easy when QB's have all day to throw.

Sorry but you can't have it both ways. Either the Defense is a whole unit or its not.

Sure the secondary is better then we expected, but without pressure up front they're merits aren't that impressive.

The Defense as a whole isn't as good as certain stats would indicate, and thats why stats are an absolute in determining things. Take tomorrow for example, I don't expect Batch to have a great day passing, but is that because I think our secondary is that formidable? No its because I expect the Steelers' to run the ball down our throats and rely on their superior performing defense. So while the secondary's numbers will have a good day, that doesn't mean the Defense as a whole will have a good day.

You have to look at the whole picture, and not just certain edges.

Ravens1991 · 10-02-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDawg819

Sure the secondary is better then we expected, but without pressure up front they're merits aren't that impressive.

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W/o pressure and our secondary playing this well, being #1 overall w/ no pressure is impressive. Even if we faced crappy QBs. No one would have predicted we were #1 overall even if we knew we would face these kind of QBs.

BigDawg819 · 10-02-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

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W/o pressure and our secondary playing this well, being #1 overall w/ no pressure is impressive. Even if we faced crappy QBs. No one would have predicted we were #1 overall even if we knew we would face these kind of QBs.

We've played crappy QB's so far so how is holding crappy QB's to crappy stats impressive?

They let Seneca ******* Wallace go 18-21 for 141 yards and NO TURNOVERS!

That is not impressive, a good defense is supposed to stop garbage QB's and when they don't get turnovers and sacks then frankly they didn't do a great job.

Look at the numbers that the Steelers' Defense is putting up on the board:

Sacks
Pressures
Forced Fumbles
Interceptions

They are doing all the things WE ARE NOT DOING! They are impressive on Defense and in comparison our Defense hasn't done dick.

Wake up