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Old 08-09-2013, 10:27 PM    (permalink
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I like Skylar.
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Buncha misogynists with your Skylar hating. THIS IS WHY AWFULLYQUIET LEFT!
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even gilligan has said that he's confused by all the skylar hate. The worst thing she's done is smoke with the baby pretty much everything else has been justified.
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The show is loved by the Internet, and the Internet is full of misogynistic assholes.
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Okay /pol/ *****.
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When compared to 2, 3 and 4, I guess 5a wasn't as amazing, but I don't get any bashing of the show at all.
I wasn't bashing, I said it was a 'relative disappointment' which is true considering the show hit new levels in the 4th season which was the best one and 5a was arguably the worst.

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I like Skylar.
What is that you find appealing about weak, manipulative people/characters? (I suspect your answer may have something to do with my next point...)

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even gilligan has said that he's confused by all the skylar hate. The worst thing she's done is smoke with the baby pretty much everything else has been justified.
I'm a yo fan but it bothers me when people do this. Feel what you feel about character and just own it. Don't go through and make a list of all a characters actions and weigh the consequence against the rationalizations and then decide off that how you feel about someone based on what you think you should feel.


*Quick tangent* This was part of the reason for my post earlier today. I was kinda realizing that reading a bunch of recaps, predictions and internet opinions of people telling me what I should expect next or how I should feel about something was kinda taking away from shows a little bit for me. I used to read a few Mad Men recaps and I'd go through and read some of the comments and such and at some point I realized I enjoyed it more when I just avoided those things. Even compared to Mad Men, Breaking Bad has a HUGE internet following and there's the whole internet culture of overanalyzing and telling people how to feel about something is magnified. I'm open to hearing different ideas on things but I don't like things that tell me how I'm supposed to think/feel or interpret something because trying to do that for yourself is part of the experience of a show of this caliber.

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*Another quick tangent that really doesn't really have anything to do with Breaking Bad*

I'm not defending the assholes of the internet at all (in fact the mass popularity of the show among stupid people of the internet is kinda what prompted my post that started our earlier "beef") but at some point the vagina mafia decided that man honesty was the same thing as misogyny. (This isn't meant to be a dig at you Brody) I don't know if you relate to 'Man Honesty' on the same level which is why you may see it differently but it's very annoying to me when people, especially men, cry 'misogyny' whenever other men say anything against women in the same way people love to cry 'racist' whenever another white person says anything racial. Someone saying something racial doesn't mean they hate black people and just because men dislike a female character on a TV show means they hate women.
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**** Skyler cheated on her husband who has cancer and then gives dbag all of their money
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even gilligan has said that he's confused by all the skylar hate. The worst thing she's done is smoke with the baby pretty much everything else has been justified.
Well, the smoking while pregnant thing is pretty bad given that there's believed to be a link between smoking while pregnant and children having cerebral palsy, which sort of implies that her smoking probably caused Walt Jr.'s cerebral palsy.

She also burned through all of the money in a very short span of time (keep in mind, the timeline of the show is pretty short). And she wanted to file for divorce because her husband was engaged in felonious activity, even as she became a co-conspirator in the felonious activity of her boss. When the situation became inconvenient, she sent hired thugs after her boss. This is just among other crappy things that she's done.

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She's not the most evil person in the show (not by a mile), but she is a terrible person in her own right. You have to be a real asshat to take the "people who don't like Skylar are misogynists" angle.

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I realize that should feel bad for Skylar, but I hate her because all she does is *****, cry, feel bad for herself, cheat, treat others around her like ****, and make terrible decisions. Yes, she's in a **** situation, but it gets old when that's all she ever does.
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I realize that should feel bad for Skylar, but I hate her because all she does is *****, cry, feel bad for herself, cheat, treat others around her like ****, and make terrible decisions. Yes, she's in a **** situation, but it gets old when that's all she ever does.
Not to mention she started all of this way before we got time for us to justify her being like this. Literally before things even got that bad with Walt she was freaking out over him being home a couple hours late and not really talking to her. Like, the dude is going to die, he probably is having a hard enough time handling it without you up his ass every two seconds.
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Mythbusters will have Aaron Paul and Vince Gilligan on it Monday.

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Mythbusters will have Aaron Paul and Vince Gilligan on it Monday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3715250.html
the episode leaked already a week or so ago.

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She also burned through all of the money in a very short span of time (keep in mind, the timeline of the show is pretty short). And she wanted to file for divorce because her husband was engaged in felonious activity, even as she became a co-conspirator in the felonious activity of her boss. When the situation became inconvenient, she sent hired thugs after her boss. This is just among other crappy things that she's done.


These are all things that she did only when it was clear that they were going to be caught by the IRS.

And I would say that being pressured into cooking the books for your boss is a little milder than selling meth and killing people, so I don't really see why she was in the wrong when she wanted a divorce.

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Rewatching the last season, guessing Rice didn't work out for Lance.

Also, saying that if you dislike Skylar you must be a misogynist is ignant.
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Skyler doesn't deserve the quantity of hate she receives. She can be annoying, but not enough to detract from the show.
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These are all things that she did only when it was clear that they were going to be caught by the IRS.

And I would say that being pressured into cooking the books for your boss is a little milder than selling meth and killing people, so I don't really see why she was in the wrong when she wanted a divorce.
I would argue that cooking the books is worse than selling meth (but nowhere near as bad as murder, obviously). Capitalist societies have room for drug dealers, but they can't tolerate fraud. But that thought ventures into politics, which isn't something I want to do.

My main beef is with the idea that I'm sexist because I happen to dislike a female character. That's a dumb suggestion.
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Skylar = Carmela Sopranao archetype. Very few good female characters.
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My main beef is with the idea that I'm sexist because I happen to dislike a female character. That's a dumb suggestion.
Agree. When people devolve into name calling they've lost their argument.
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There's a difference between Skylar hating and constantly bitching about her getting in the way of Walt being a badass, or whatever.
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Skylar is an Unempathetic ***** and has been so from episode one. She dictates and whines and doesn't ever think about other people's wants, needs, or motivations. She is self centered and a bully. This is all from her character pre Walt becoming a criminal. Everything else has reinforced that. She is small and has small and selfish desires and motivations.

She has a good side, but that was never featured as a primary trait. They chose to focus on the conflict in their relationship, the traits that would cause a rift under high stress.
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