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Old 01-29-2011, 03:51 PM    (permalink
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I can't buy that to be honest with you. We've gotten by with scraping the bottom of the barrel at offensive line before. We've had good success plugging guys in at guard for stretches too.
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mankins will prolly get franchise tagged and traded for assets i doubt we just let him walk
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That too, pending the CBA.
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I can't buy that to be honest with you. We've gotten by with scraping the bottom of the barrel at offensive line before. We've had good success plugging guys in at guard for stretches too.
I see the trend of you guys drafting Florida players still going this year, and Pouncey will be the 1st(I can also see Ahmad Black being yours in the 3rd as well). You guys have had success plugging in guys, but you also have a history of drafting olinemen early in the draft. Plus isnt Koppen gone as well?
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I see the trend of you guys drafting Florida players still going this year, and Pouncey will be the 1st(I can also see Ahmad Black being yours in the 3rd as well). You guys have had success plugging in guys, but you also have a history of drafting olinemen early in the draft. Plus isnt Koppen gone as well?
I still can't see it with all of the stuff we have to do to finish out this defense. Maybe in the second, but not the first.


No, Koppen will be here next year. We should actively be looking for an upgrade though. Keyword there is upgrade though, not a replacement. Someone who can anchor against 3-4 NT's.
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hmmm i think burney should be a sleeper for us. could be a special teams ace and solid nickelback possibly
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Dear holy Belichick, please draft Brooks Reed.
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or kerrigan :) he looks beastly
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I would be happy with either of them.
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haha yeah i dont think kerrigan is going to last til our pick now
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Me neither. I've moved on. It's all about Brooks Reed in the early second or the end of the first now.
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I think Reed is a 2nd round guy, don't see us needing to take him in the 1st.

But yeah he would be solid, with us going with a stud 5 tech or OT if there isn't an OLB on the board that we like.
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I think we just might. He had a real great year and has been productive throughout. Gotta check out the medical, but I'm extremely high on him.
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i really like darelle scott as a mid rounder to complement BJGE and Woodhead
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I'm high on Scott as well, but he can't block. That hurts his value a bit.
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def worth a flier tho in the 4th or 5th.
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updated mock in my sig. brooks reed is flyinnnn up, and i think we could take him there where most would consider a "reach." only thing missing is DE :(
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Brooks Reed is a mid to late day 2 guy.

Don't over-estimate the senior bowl's impact. He won't blow the combine up and won't likely blow his pro day up.

Gabe Carimi doesn't belong in round 1 either, but he seems to me to be a DBS blocker more so than a ZBS blocker. He is probably a mid to late 2nd round pick in the Patriots system because he just isn't athletic.

Hankerson at 33rd would be great, especially getting Pouncey at 60th.
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Brooks Reed is a mid to late day 2 guy.

Don't over-estimate the senior bowl's impact. He won't blow the combine up and won't likely blow his pro day up.

Gabe Carimi doesn't belong in round 1 either, but he seems to me to be a DBS blocker more so than a ZBS blocker. He is probably a mid to late 2nd round pick in the Patriots system because he just isn't athletic.

Hankerson at 33rd would be great, especially getting Pouncey at 60th.
Matt Millen likes Brooks Reed, so now I don't want him...
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Don't over-estimate the senior bowl's impact. He won't blow the combine up and won't likely blow his pro day up.
I'm sorry, but that's absolutely absurd. Late second round I can buy if you're that concerned about the medical but he's been a terror when he's healthy and blew up guys going in the first round both in practice and in the game.

He's going have a very, very good combine combine, I can say that much. Was listed on ESPN's Freak List earlier in the year. Should run 4.6 in the 250 range and put up some ridiculous strength numbers. He power cleans 405 and squats 550. Benches 425 too. Those are last years numbers too. Should be even stronger now. Scouts have been high on this guy for a very long time and his days of going under the radar on message boards are over. If there were youtube clips available of him we would all be on his nuts.

It's also hard to "overestimate the impact of the Senior Bowl." You've seen guys like him come in and make and impact time and time again and then go in the first round. Brandon Graham, Dan Williams, Larry English, Robert Ayers, Clay Matthews, Sam Baker, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, ect ect ect. All not assured of going in the first round or even the early second and came in helped themselves tons. He was already going in the early second depending on who you talk to. He helped himself A LOT by standing up this week and looked great doing it.

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....a star of Day 2 and Projects as one of the top pass rushing linebackers in the draft

Brooks Reed/DE-OLB/Arizona: Reed was another multi-purpose defender who impressed scouts with his skill and intensity. He was ferocious in pass rush drills, often beating much larger linemen up the field. Later in the week, when Reed played linebacker and dropped into coverage, his ball skills were as proficient as many of the every day linebackers he played next to. The depth of talent on the defensive line will knock Reed out of the draft's initial 35 selections, but don't be surprised if a 3-4 defense acquires him in the middle part of round two.
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To be honest guys, I'd put our realistic big board for round 1 to 2 like this:

Pat Peterson
Prince Amukamara
Robert Quinn
Marcel Dareus
Nick Fairley
Von Miller

Prospects for #17
/Cameron Jordan/
Akeem Ayers
Ryan Kerrigan
JJ Watt
Aldon Smith
Julio Jones

I love Cameron Jordan, the guy has beast written all over him. I don't think he's there at 17, but i'd love us to trade up for him. Moreso than Kerrigan, Ayers, etc.

As for #28

Nate Solder
Anthony Castanzo
JJ Watt
Justin Houston
Hankerson/Young [Not sure who I like more yet]
Brandon Harris

I really like Titus Young. Not high on Bailey and a few others at this point at all in round 1. I'd love to see us grab Acho at the end of round 2 though.
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I really don't like Titus Young all that much. He doesn't bring enough size to the table and the way you shut him down is similar to the way you shut the rest of our receivers down. He's also not a very natural hands catcher and is inconsistent in the effort he gives as a route runner. The DeSean Jackson comparison is pretty legit, although he might not be quite as fast. You hit him in the mouth a few times and he's not the same player. I would take Hankerson over him every single time for us anyway.
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Take Akeem Ayers off that list for #17 and all those guys are realistic.
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Ayers would be great if he could rush the passer. He's likely limited to being an ILB in a 3-4 though.
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