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Old 09-19-2011, 09:43 PM    (permalink
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Football-wise, the PAC 16 looks fierce.
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Football-wise, the PAC 16 looks fierce.
It's still no SEC.
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It's still no SEC.
I wasn't really comparing them, just noting that the PAC 16 has a bunch of perennial BCS championship contenders now.
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Here's a column on the West Virginia to SEC rumors...
http://outkickthecoverage.com/west-v...ont-happen.php

He doesn't seem to think WVU is high on the SEC's list at all.
I always figured WVU to be a trump card, in case the SEC missed out on other targets.
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Nate Silver: still awesome.

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I'm thinking the game between LSU/WVU has more meaning than originally thought this weekend. WVU has been able to hold their own vs. the SEC football wise.

2011: ? vs. LSU
2010: L @ LSU 20-14
2009: L @ Auburn 41-30
2008: W vs. Auburn 34-17
2007: W vs. Miss St. 38-13
2006: W @ Miss St. 42-14
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Good articles posted fellas. The Silver one in particular was pretty informative.

As far as West Virginia to the SEC goes, that's the dream scenario for West Virginia, who might be left out in the cold in all of this because of academics and media related stuff. They've got to either hope for that or the Big East and the remnants of the Big XII find some way to get something done.
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Good articles posted fellas. The Silver one in particular was pretty informative.

As far as West Virginia to the SEC goes, that's the dream scenario for West Virginia, who might be left out in the cold in all of this because of academics and media related stuff. They've got to either hope for that or the Big East and the remnants of the Big XII find some way to get something done.
I think the Big East-Big XII thing will get done. The Big East is going to have five teams next year. The Big XII will have five too (asusming the Big Ten doesn't steal Iowa State, Missouri, and Kansas). Combine and make ten teams. They can choose to stay put. Or go after teams like UCF, Houston, SMU, and Temple.

I'm very interested in the rumors of the MWC and CUSA teaming up. Technically a 22-team conference (assuming noboday poaches their current members). It could also convince TCU to ack out of their move to the Big East and possibly entice BYU to stop being an independent.
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The SEC and ACC rejected West Virginia lol. Source Dan Patrick show
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hahah eat it WVU! i guess those conferences like you to be able to read
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hahah eat it WVU! i guess those conferences like you to be able to read
The way we're sitting back right now has me scared. If we stay in a reformed Big East/Big 12 I'm seriously going to be pissed.
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The way we're sitting back right now has me scared. If we stay in a reformed Big East/Big 12 I'm seriously going to be pissed.
yeah, i would not like that one bit. not sure if i'd prefer us going to the big 10 or ACC though
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I thought Rutgers-to-ACC was pretty much a done deal.
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I'm not buying ESPNs talk that Notre Dame would pick ACC if they decide to join a conference. Notre Dame is just way to perfect fit in in the Big Ten.

And I love Mack Browk talking like the PAC 16 isn't a lock yet. I really want the Big 12 preserved. Let them pick up Louisville, Cincy, and West Virginia. Not good enough to fully replace the teams they lost, but it could bring it back to 12 teams.
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Not from what I understand. Our AD is being tight lipped about everything and I'm starting to think it's because we're not as "valuable" as we think.
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I actually feel a little bad for West Virginia.

Let's be honest, you're THE public university for the state of West Virginia. How could you possibly have any academic standards? You'd have like 20 students.

Granted, you could say the same thing about most of the South, but schools like Alabama are ******* annoying because they actually think they are a good school. I knew a dude with an Auburn degree who could barely tie his own shoes.
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I actually feel a little bad for West Virginia.

Let's be honest, you're THE public university for the state of West Virginia. How could you possibly have any academic standards? You'd have like 20 students.

Granted, you could say the same thing about most of the South, but schools like Alabama are ******* annoying because they actually think they are a good school. I knew a dude with an Auburn degree who could barely tie his own shoes.
I live in Alabama and I am in full agreement. There are smart Auburn and Alabama graduates of course. And then there are the ones who couldn't spell cat if you gave them the A and the T. I don't know how they have higher academic rankings than my alma mater despite having higher acceptance rates, lower average GPA, low average SATs and ACTs, and a bunch of programs rated lower. Conspiracy/

Also, Missouri has an offer to the SEC.
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I just listened to our AD on the NYC radio show and he seemed very confident that we're going to land in a good spot. I think he's definitely holding out hope for B10 but it sounds like we're going to land in that or ACC for sure. I feel more comfortable that we'll be fine after listening to him.
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Wow, the Notre Dame to the ACC move is pretty crazy. That would certainly turn the tides of the conference a little bit. Even with Notre Dame down on their luck, they're still one of the most important chips on any table. I thought they would be sniffing around for basketball and Olympics, but the ACC has said publicly that a conference with non-football members just isn't a good idea at this point.

I wonder what the counter move at that point would be. If you're swinging for the fences and have Notre Dame in the fold, you might as well try to bring in Penn State and finally get all the good programs in the East in one place. I'm not sure how open they would be to that, it's been rumored and dismissed as crazy talk already, but Notre Dame would give the entire thing a different look for sure. I think they would ultimately stay in the B1G, but it would be a story if the ACC did manage to bag Notre Dame.

Ultimately, it's still probably UConn and Rutgers rounding out the thing....but hot damn is the ACC making things interesting right now.
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The NY Times researched college football fans in NYC and around the country and this is what they found for NY.

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The only problem is that those people aren't foaming at the mouth for Rutgers football. Allegiances are split. I really hope Rutgers continues heading in the right direction and the possibility of reaching that many homes with a network is something that's huge....but there just isn't enough right now for the ACC or the Big Ten to go on as far as fielding competitive football and basketball programs goes.
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The only problem is that those people aren't foaming at the mouth for Rutgers football. Allegiances are split. I really hope Rutgers continues heading in the right direction and the possibility of reaching that many homes with a network is something that's huge....but there just isn't enough right now for the ACC or the Big Ten to go on as far as fielding competitive football and basketball programs goes.
I agree that we have to get better. We've been headed in the right direction but as of now we're not strong enough. That's not the only factor though which is why we're still an attractive school even without the high winning percentages. Even if Rutgers had half of those NYC viewers we still have all of NJ which in itself is a big TV market.

This a link to that article I quoted above that shows the fan bases for all the major collegiate teams. Rutgers would fit in nicely with any of the conferences from that perspective.

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/201...os/?ref=sports
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I already posted that article above.
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