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I agree :) Jared Allen is sex
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Im gonna have to go with Chris Johnson... the dude practically was the titans last year and it was only his 2nd year in the league.
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I hate the guy, but I admit he's deservedly high.
I still think Polamalu is the best overall though, and we saw how much worse their defense was last year with Troy hurt.

Jared Allen..... hard for me to give any props to my evil enemies, but you have to tip your cap to thethe Grapes for being aggressive and adding proven talent not just thru the draft.

The draft-purists thought the Vikings were trading too much.
For every Adrian Peterson, there's a Troy Williamson, or Jamark Russell.....

How often do high draft pick DEs turn into guys this good? Ask Chris Long, Jamal Reynolds, Quenton Moses, Gaines Adams (RIP), Jarvis Moss, Vern Gholston....... we knew Jared Allen was a pure beast.
Damn Vikings. Why can't they just draft and develop.

Allen, Pat Williams, Winfield, Shiancoe, Longwell, Favre..... lotsa key players here that they didn't draft.
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I agree with this article. Jared Allen is a ******* game changer.
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Love him or hate him, you cant argue with that write up.
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I wanted to argue for Dwight Freeney because he changes how a team prepares. But Allen's ability to play the run AND rush the passer is hard to beat. He plays the way Mario Williams should play.
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I wanted to argue for Dwight Freeney because he changes how a team prepares. But Allen's ability to play the run AND rush the passer is hard to beat. He plays the way Mario Williams should play.
TBH, I think both Dwight Freeney and Gary Brackett get a bad rap against the run. He's so short and stocky, that offensive tackles have a really hard time getting under him and moving him off the line. The majority of the time, he causes a stalemate, and when he doesn't, he's usually using his leverage and actually pushing the tackle into the backfield.
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Jared Allen might as well have not even dressed for the game against the Browns, so it's really hard for me to say it's him.

I'm inclined to say it's Darelle Revis right this second because of how much flexibility he gives the Jets defense. There are a ton of things they would be otherwise unable to do without him in their lineup.
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DeMarcus Ware certainly deserves a mention for the same reason as Allen. Dominant pass rusher who comes up with sacks in big moments and also plays the run very well.
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Jared Allen might as well have not even dressed for the game against the Browns, so it's really hard for me to say it's him.

I'm inclined to say it's Darelle Revis right this second because of how much flexibility he gives the Jets defense. There are a ton of things they would be otherwise unable to do without him in their lineup.
Meh, one game against the NFL's best left tackle is a pretty small sample size to judge off of.
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Jared Allen might as well have not even dressed for the game against the Browns, so it's really hard for me to say it's him.
We get it Joe Thomas is good...
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Seriously. Stop hijacking every thread to throw in some comment about how awesome the Browns are. We get it. We'll start caring once they break .500.
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Andre Johnson anyone?

Certainly deserves to be in the discussion. Texans were the #1 passing team in the NFL and he's a HUGE reason why.
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Andre Johnson anyone?

Certainly deserves to be in the discussion. Texans were the #1 passing team in the NFL and he's a HUGE reason why.
I don't think it can possibly be a wide receiver no matter good he is, because he's dependent on the quarterback.

Revis affects the game no matter what... he frees up a defender to load up against the run or blitz or an extra defender to help elsewhere in coverage. Revis essentially gives the Jets an extra defender
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Andre Johnson anyone?

Certainly deserves to be in the discussion. Texans were the #1 passing team in the NFL and he's a HUGE reason why.
True, but even with him, they've still never won anything. Not even made the playoffs.
I hate Jared Allen, but he's a big reason why they've dethroned the Packers for the division the past 2 years. Dammit.
And a big reason whey they were just a Favre-EffUp from getting to the Super Bowl this year.
Again, we saw what missing Polamalu meant for the Steelers, and Urlacher for the Bears. How would that Viking defense suffer missing Allen?

Viking fans don't want to see the answer to that. Packer fans on the other hand, well we missed Cullen Jenkins and Nick Barnett for all of 2008, so....
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Jared Allen might as well have not even dressed for the game against the Browns, so it's really hard for me to say it's him.
That's because your QB was so bad, he just wanted to make sure he stayed in the game.

He shows up against the Rodgers, Brees, Romos of the world.
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That's because your QB was so bad, he just wanted to make sure he stayed in the game.

He shows up against the Rodgers, Brees, Romos of the world.
I don't recall him doing much of anything in the playoffs
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Jared Allen is a top 5 player in the league and doubles as the most bad ass dude alive.
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I dont feel like looking, but I would love to see the players the Chiefs got in the deal for Allen.
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I don't recall him doing much of anything in the playoffs
Not stats wise, but Allen ****** dominated. Hurried Romo all day. They scored 3 points against us, Jared Allen had a good game.
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Top 5 player? Meaning everyone in the league?

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I don't recall him doing much of anything in the playoffs
You probably didn't watch the Dallas game then.
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Top 5 player? Meaning everyone in the league?

Hyperbolic insanity
Easily a top 5 defender. Depending on how your list goes, he could go in the top 5.
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