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Old 06-29-2010, 05:40 PM    (permalink
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Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson, currently a restricted free agent who has designs of holding out for the entire season if he doesn’t get signed to a desired long term deal, may end up getting paid just by another team.

Kevin Acee, reports for the San Diego Union-Tribune that several teams are interested in trading for budding superstar. Not surprisingly, the Seahawks, who once were in the market for wide receiver Brandon Marshall, are one of them.

Speaking of Marshall, Jackson wants to be paid better than him. After being traded by the Broncos to Miami, Marshall received a four-year deal worth $47.5 million.

The Chargers reportedly have made it clear they are interesting in moving Jackson and team officials have had discussions with the Seattle brass. The other named suitor is from Washington on the other coast, the Redskins.
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They should just release him :). If I were them I would pay him though he is one of the best WR's in the game now with his combo of size and speed. Him and Rivers are a very good duo
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Keep his chemistry with that offense and Rivers. He's definitely worth an equal contract to Marshall. I'm not saying he's as good as Marshall, but he'll definitely be hard to replace.
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his request is unreasonable, not sure how much you can get though. Given that he has about 5 more years in him id say trade him if you can get really good value, otherwise pay him, NEVER let him walk away
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I think the off the field stuff would make me a little iffy about locking him up long term.
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Unless they can get a real good value for him, then they should make his ass sit out the year if he wants to play tough.

These players act like their careers are so short, so they have to go against the terms of their contract or the CBA and hold out...... well guess what, their careers ARE short so missing a whole year unpaid in the small window of their prime is not smart.

I hope the Chargers call his bluff.

Receivers are not that important anyway. Look at the Saints WR's..... no high picks.... look at the Colts last year rolling with Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie. Sidney Rice was nobody until Favre got there last year, all of a sudden he's a star.

Rivers can make a lot of WRs look good.
Plus VJ is a criminal isn't he, with at least one strike on him from Goodell?
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Is he for sure going to get suspended? That's going to be a holdup in contract talks, and probably a big reason Marshall didn't get extended in Denver.


I would hate to see him leave though, Rivers would still need another #1 WR, and having that big huge target fits so well with what they want to do.


It's not easy finding another WR like him, 6'5 WR's over 225 lbs who can run like a gazelle and jump out of the stadium don't grow on trees. Even if you replace him, you won't have the same guy who can bail out a QB on bad throws. I really wouldn't want to risk jeapordizing the development of my QB who relies on that throw too much.


I still voted trade him, just because I think the NFL gets more interesting by trading elite players.
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Pay him. VJax is one of the best WRs in the game, especially in that system where he can just run down the field and catch the deep pass.

He's built for that system, he's the prototype WR that Rivers needs. AJ Smith knows it too, its no coincidence that he keeps getting tall WRs for Rivers to throw to and that system to build around him.

Jackson needs to be on that team. If they want to be SB contenders, pay him.

The Chargers made a mistake in the draft, they had Dez Bryant falling and instead they move up to get Ryan Mathews.

If they drafted Dez, Vincent Jackson all of a sudden becomes great trade bait.
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Sidney Rice was 21 years old when he was drafted, and he broke out in his 3rd season like most WR's do. He was extremely raw, and young, and he was hindered by knee injuries in his 2nd year. It's extremely short-sighted to put all of his 3rd year success on Brett Favre.


It's not like he was a 5-6 year veteran and all of a sudden emerged out of the blue.
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Show him the $$, lots of it.
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Sidney Rice was 21 years old when he was drafted, and he broke out in his 3rd season like most WR's do. He was extremely raw, and young, and he was hindered by knee injuries in his 2nd year. It's extremely short-sighted to put all of his 3rd year success on Brett Favre.


It's not like he was a 5-6 year veteran and all of a sudden emerged out of the blue.
He also didnt mention Wayne/Dallas Clark for the colts, or Colston Shockey for the Saints.
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trade him, he isn't even on Marshall's level and has become overrated by the fans
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Their passing game is their strength. It'd be a bad idea to mess with their success.

If they can get a deal similar to what the Broncos got for Marshall, then that may be a solid alternative. They'll probably have to get in position to take one of the top WR's in the upcoming draft to replace him though, unless they struggle this season.
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Jackson is damn near unstoppable in this offense. he cant be doubled cause of Gates and Floyd and he is fast as hell for a guy 6'5 240.

the thing about him is HE CANT STAY OUTTA TROUBLE. he is one mishap away from being suspended for the entire year. as a chargers fan id love for him to come back, but this is a business.

im more scared of losing Marcus Mcneil over Jackson tho
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trade him to the browns please.
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I think they should pay him, but I expect him to be wearing a different jersey come September. AJ Smith is stubborn and will get rid of anyone. It would be a boneheaded decision though.
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Sidney Rice was 21 years old when he was drafted, and he broke out in his 3rd season like most WR's do. It's extremely short-sighted to put all of his 3rd year success on Brett Favre.
So do you believe he'd have similar success in season 4 with Tarvarris Jackson back at the helm?
Look, I hate Favre, but come on..... without Favre, Rice is still just a Dwayne Bowe or Donnie Avery at the moment instead of a top-notch fantasy WR.
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^T^H^I^S If they can get close to what Marshall fetched, they should ship his ass to Seattle or Washington. Then watch him get arrested again and be suspended for a year.
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How is this even a question? Pay the man. You have a great young quarterback who has good chemistry with Jackson and your offense is basically a running game away from being Superbowl caliber. Not even to mention the fact that there's not even a salary cap right now.

If they released him it would take all of an hour for someone to give him the contract he wants.
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This is a very tough question for me to answer - on the one hand, he's a great young player who's had a lot of success and certainly deserves a new contract. At the same time however, that's a whole lot of money to pay to a wide receiver, a position which is highly dependent on other positions for success. I don't know if I'd be willing to pay any wide receiver that kind of money, but if San Diego would, I would find it tough to blame them.
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How is this even a question? Pay the man. You have a great young quarterback who has good chemistry with Jackson and your offense is basically a running game away from being Superbowl caliber. Not even to mention the fact that there's not even a salary cap right now.

If they released him it would take all of an hour for someone to give him the contract he wants.
I think that's the misunderstanding that's happening right now. Just because there's no salary cap doesn't mean that there still aren't rules set in place. The CBA is a big part of why guys like VJ and McNeill aren't extended yet. Heck, you know there's issues when even Al Davis, Jerry Jones, and Dan Snyder aren't going crazy with the money in a capless year.

The other issue is VJ himself. The guy is another violation away from missing a full year. He probably should have been extended already if it wasn't for his boneheaded mistakes off the field like getting a DUI before the Steelers' game and driving to the Jets' playoff game on a suspended license. In addition, look at someone like Miles Austin who has already signed his tender and is willing to get on the field and show why he should be given that contract extension (besides not having any off the field problems like VJ).
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The Chiefs fan in me says to trade him out of the AFC West! This division doesn't need good receivers as far as I'm concerned! :D
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So do you believe he'd have similar success in season 4 with Tarvarris Jackson back at the helm?
Look, I hate Favre, but come on..... without Favre, Rice is still just a Dwayne Bowe or Donnie Avery at the moment instead of a top-notch fantasy WR.
I don't know if he'd have the same success, or numbers as good. Obviously a good QB increases better numbers for a WR no matter what situation, but let's not attribute Rice breaking out due to Favre.


Most WR's go through a developmental period, and one being as young and raw as Rice was when he was drafted makes him no different. He had 4 TD's in each of his first two seasons and only started a total of 7 games those years, not even including how he had consistent knee issues in year 2 he could of broken out that year.


I'm not saying Favre didn't help, but to act like the only reason he's a star is because of Favre is just plain wrong. He was a nobody because he was only in his 2nd year.


What about Mike Sims-Walker, Roddy White, and Braylon Edwards? Did they all acquire pro bowl QB's in their 3rd season that made them go from nobodies? Some guys just achieve that status in their 2nd season, some in their 3rd, or even longer...Rice has always had talent and I believe could of made the pro bowl no matter who was the QB.
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