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Old 07-19-2010, 11:28 AM    (permalink
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You must not follow the saints closely. They did not lockup HFA advantage till the Vikings lost in week 16 yet the saints starters still played the entire game in a loss to the terrible buccaneers.
Im sorry I have to spell it out. 2 of our top 3 corners, 2 OLB's, Reggie, two WR's, and couple of backups were out of the Bucs game. Overall our top 3 corners, 2 OLB's, top 3 RB's, couple OL, Ellis, Brees, Shockey, Two of the top 4 wr's, all missed a complete game in the last 4 games, some missed more then one.

And all we needed was the Vikes to lose one game to seal up HFA, and they were talking about resting Favre the last game, so Payton knew they would lose atleast one.
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I have to agree with the Bob Sanders guy on the NFC South. Not only is there a new winner every year, but also a new loser as in no team that finishes last, finishes last again. Tampa Bay will probably be good this year and everthing will go their way like New Orleans last year. Somebody that is expected to do good will do bad and end up last. I am going to say New Orleans if anybody though. Everything will go against them like Tampa Bay last year. That is the NFC South curse and it will strike again.
So because teams were built for one year runs (outside the Vick falcons) or got lucky (in both cases for the Bucs after their SB run) its a curse?
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It's going to be a very interesting start for the Steelers. Losing both Ben and Colon for significant amounts of time will definitely hurt the team. I still don't understand why they won't sign Flozell Adams to a one year deal, he's, IMO, a better option than Jonathan Scott. Oh well.

I just hope the team can end up 2-2 or 3-3 (depending on how big the suspension is) by the time Roethlisberger returns. That still leaves the team in a very good position to at least push for a wild card or something. But it's going to be tough.
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It's going to be a very interesting start for the Steelers. Losing both Ben and Colon for significant amounts of time will definitely hurt the team. I still don't understand why they won't sign Flozell Adams to a one year deal, he's, IMO, a better option than Jonathan Scott. Oh well.

I just hope the team can end up 2-2 or 3-3 (depending on how big the suspension is) by the time Roethlisberger returns. That still leaves the team in a very good position to at least push for a wild card or something. But it's going to be tough.
Maybe in the Scott case they think since we aren't suppose to win without Ben, give the guy some experience for the future instead of a stop gap who might not even do well?
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Maybe in the Scott case they think since we aren't suppose to win without Ben, give the guy some experience for the future instead of a stop gap who might not even do well?
I'd have no problem with giving a guy experience, but this is a 27 year old journeyman who's had unsuccessful stops in multiple teams, including the Bills and their injury-prone mess of a line last year.

Our new O-line coach, who was the Oline coach with Buffalo last year, probably feels comfortable with him or something and brought him along.

I'd rather Ramon Foster or maybe even Chris Scott get experience, but Scott got injured and Foster is the #1 backup guard we have.
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I'd have no problem with giving a guy experience, but this is a 27 year old journeyman who's had unsuccessful stops in multiple teams, including the Bills and their injury-prone mess of a line last year.

Our new O-line coach, who was the Oline coach with Buffalo last year, probably feels comfortable with him or something and brought him along.

I'd rather Ramon Foster or maybe even Chris Scott get experience, but Scott got injured and Foster is the #1 backup guard we have.
My bad I was thinking of Chris Scott
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Im sorry I have to spell it out. 2 of our top 3 corners, 2 OLB's, Reggie, two WR's, and couple of backups were out of the Bucs game. Overall our top 3 corners, 2 OLB's, top 3 RB's, couple OL, Ellis, Brees, Shockey, Two of the top 4 wr's, all missed a complete game in the last 4 games, some missed more then one.

And all we needed was the Vikes to lose one game to seal up HFA, and they were talking about resting Favre the last game, so Payton knew they would lose atleast one.
Reggie Bush 6 receptions and 2 rushes in the bucs game. I wonder how he did that not playing he is more impressive than i thought.
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When you're so used to your team failing, it's hard to imagine them not letting you down.
That's what's so great about the Eagles. They find new ways to **** with me every year. I could see them starting out 7-0 and losing their last nine. You know, just to mess with me.
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Reggie Bush 6 receptions and 2 rushes in the bucs game. I wonder how he did that not playing he is more impressive than i thought.
He's such an ineffective player, that he might as well not play.

Oh wait, I forgot the Saints are paying him such a stupid salary to be the league's best decoy. My bad.
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Reggie Bush 6 receptions and 2 rushes in the bucs game. I wonder how he did that not playing he is more impressive than i thought.
Wow, I add one person to the wrong list. Now this just shows your grasping straws to find a arguement. It went from your beloved Colts not being #1 to AFC, to the NFC South curse, to the Saints struggling (which you never argued about, just the sitting starters part, which is true) and all you manage to find is I put a player on the wrong list. Congratulations, you finally did win a part of the arguement.
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Wow, I add one person to the wrong list. Now this just shows your grasping straws to find a arguement. It went from your beloved Colts not being #1 to AFC, to the NFC South curse, to the Saints struggling (which you never argued about, just the sitting starters part, which is true) and all you manage to find is I put a player on the wrong list. Congratulations, you finally did win a part of the arguement.
Except your "they sat their starters" is a complete lie. Henderson, Colston, and Meachem all played in the losses to the cowboys and the buccaneers. They were not resting they just lost.
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Except your "they sat their starters" is a complete lie. Henderson, Colston, and Meachem all played in the losses to the cowboys and the buccaneers. They were not resting they just lost.
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Im sorry I have to spell it out. 2 of our top 3 corners, 2 OLB's, Reggie, two WR's, and couple of backups were out of the Bucs game. Overall our top 3 corners, 2 OLB's, top 3 RB's, couple OL, Ellis, Brees, Shockey, Two of the top 4 wr's, all missed a complete game in the last 4 games, some missed more then one.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf.../post_114.html

Thats for the last game, 21 players with little or no playing time is resting starters. And I said for the last 4 games, not just the losses to the Cowboys and Bucs. Bushrod got raped against Ware and for some reason the coaches didn't help him much. But both of our corners miss significant time because we didn't want to overplay them, Ellis, Shanle had a concussion, and couple others missed more time then just the last game. So again, I don't see how I am wrong, except putting Bush in the wrong column.
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Jets too high, Ravens too low & the Vikings s/b a placeholder while they're circling the list for permission to land depending on when/if Favre decides to come back.

I realize it will be when, not if, but if he does retire it could be a real blessing in disguise for the Vikes, & Sage Rosenfels will get that chance to start he's been waiting on for like, forever! What's that you say, Vikings fans? yes they will go with Tavaris, but do you honestly think he will start going past October? Start Tavaris, Childress will get fired & their SB run evaporates. Kind of a big old risk they're taking with a 42-yr-old QB who had offseason surgery again.
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Jets too high, Ravens too low & the Vikings s/b a placeholder while they're circling the list for permission to land depending on when/if Favre decides to come back.

I realize it will be when, not if, but if he does retire it could be a real blessing in disguise for the Vikes, & Sage Rosenfels will get that chance to start he's been waiting on for like, forever! What's that you say, Vikings fans? yes they will go with Tavaris, but do you honestly think he will start going past October? Start Tavaris, Childress will get fired & their SB run evaporates. Kind of a big old risk they're taking with a 42-yr-old QB who had offseason surgery again.
Its sad they traded a 4th to get Sage, then give him decent money to come here and be 3rd string QB. Not what they originally wanted, but he has been on the inactive list so either he is super pissed or happy to make money easily.
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9ers have been the go to pick for 5 years now, until they actually do something I don't care
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How is that? Smith never showed anything at QB to warrant them being worth a damn. The go to pick has been the texans and cardinals.
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now sir, you guys haven't made the playoffs since the late 90s? it's annoying that every year all espn does is claim you are back in power

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now sir, you guys haven't made the playoffs since the late 90s? it's annoying that every year all espn does is claim you are back in power
he is a jags fan, you are confusing him with YAY

also, you are referring to ESPN, let's remember that they suck
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I dont know about the rest of the league, but the Steelers are a hard one to figure out...the defense will be gooood, but the offense is a total mystery atm, so with that in mind, id put them anywhere between the 10 to 20 range.
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he is a jags fan, you are confusing him with YAY

also, you are referring to ESPN, let's remember that they suck
its all a cover he just doesnt want to be associated with the 49ers publicly
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losing 2 of your 4 starters on the DL and the best guy in the Superbowl, LT, and still having a weak LB core isn't acutally getting better.
One starter is gone from the starting Super Bowl line and he is a career backup and the weak link of that starting unit. McCray isnt that good but he could lay some shots, though. Both Bobby McCray and our starting DE before injury, Charles Grant were both cut so I don't see how they are big loses with the addition of Alex Brown and Jimmy Wilkerson.

And Grant has a been a disappointment for the past few seasons and other NFL teams seem to think the same as he will be playing for the UFL this year.

Who the hell is this LT that was so huge in the SB?
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man, the 49ers are getting overrated at this point. QB play is kind of a big deal.
Kind of obnoxious how that is the only thing keeping us out of the postseason.
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