Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
I remember when Calais Campbell fell in the draft bc Miami's terrible coaching was unable to harness his impressive athletic ability.
After learning for a year in the NFL, he went on to be a beast his sophomore year, and now is a PB caliber 3-4 End entering this year.
Allen Bailey is twice the athlete Campbell was. With good coaching and patience, he can become a good player.
A lot of Miami defenders had knocks on them, then went on to be beasts in the NFL. Beason, Campbell, Merriweather, Kenny Phillips will be one if he recovers from his career threatening injury.
Even guys who were nobodies in college, like Bruce Johnson are winding up being much better pros than college players. It leads me to believe that Miami is just doing a terrible job of coaching up their talent.
All these guys are coming to the NFL and outplaying their draft slot after some good coaching. That can't be coincidence.
Sad but true. Our players are better pro than college players.
Originally Posted by BamaFalcon59
Not so fast. Before the combine (where Campbell ran a 5.0 I believe), and really before his senior year, Campbell was viewed as next in line as far as freak defensive end prospects, being compared to Mario Williams and Jamaal Anderson.
Let's see how things play out.
DG already answered this but Campbell put on a lot of weight before his Junior year and then added another 10 before the draft. He trained with some sleazy agent along with Kentwan Balmer and Bruce Davis and he didn't get proper training for the combine drills. Instead they focused on size and strength. He looked sloppy and out-of-shape at the combine but that wasn't reflective of his play on the field where he was always quick, fast and agile for his size.
Originally Posted by K Train
when campbell came out he fell because no one could place him...just like no one can place bailey
he could have lost 15 pounds and moved to 43DE, he could have gained 20 pounds and been drafted as a 34 NT or stay as he was and play all over a 43 line or 34 DE, he found a home at 34DE with dockett and in 2 years thats gonna be the best 3 man line in the league with dan williams as a disruptive NT.
their situations are pretty similar....but i do think bailey is the much more intriguing athlete of the two.
Nah....Campbell was a legitimate tweener. He wasn't a good enough pass rusher to line up in a 4-3 at 290 lbs. but he was kinda lanky for a 3-4. I still think his best fit would be as a 270-275 lb. 4-3 LDE. He was nasty as a Soph when he was around 265.