2010/2011 Pittsburgh Steelers Discussion Thread - Page 80

mikehop05 · 02-06-2011, 09:40 PM

i wish we had some secondary players

like you said, this hurts. i dont know, we didnt capitalize when we shoulda, and when we did do something our defense couldnt stop them

welp, win orl ose i went out drinking. all i can do.

Mr. Goosemahn · 02-06-2011, 09:45 PM

How I wish we could land Nnamdi Asomugha. He'd be such a great asset to our defense, just unbelievable.

Shame to know this could be Hines Ward's, Aaron Smith's, James Farrior's, and Flozell Adams' last game. I really hope they all come back next year and we have another good year, but who knows.

mikehop05 · 02-06-2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

How I wish we could land Nnamdi Asomugha. He'd be such a great asset to our defense, just unbelievable.

Shame to know this could be Hines Ward's, Aaron Smith's, James Farrior's, and Flozell Adams' last game. I really hope they all come back next year and we have another good year, but who knows.

id give up one of our OLB's (/ money paid for them) for nnamdi, without question.

Hines · 02-06-2011, 09:52 PM

Can't win when you turn the ball over. Kicked ourselves in the foot and they capitalized. They wanted it more. I loved the heart and fight we had, we just couldn't get it done.

mikehop05 · 02-06-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

Can't win when you turn the ball over. Kicked ourselves in the foot and they capitalized. They wanted it more. I loved the heart and fight we had, we just couldn't get it done.

this.

first pick wasnt on ben, second was.

fumble was meh. we missed two blocks and i would say half of mendy half on the others.

Mr. Goosemahn · 02-06-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehop05

id give up one of our OLB's (/ money paid for them) for nnamdi, without question.

I wish we'd make a move for these players, our team could be so, so, so good if we had them. But we never do.

I hate feeling like this, because I just come up with ridiculous ideas of what we should do, but oh well. Nothing I can do, got to try and manage my sadness.

Pipe Dream off-season:

Sign CB Nnamdi Asomugha
Sign CB Champ Bailey
Sign RB Cadillac Williams
Sign OG Marshal Yanda
Sign WR Steve Smith (NYG)
Sign OT Jared Gaither
Sign DT Richard Seymour

1st and 3rd for OG Carl Nicks
2nd and 2012 first for WR Larry Fitzgerald

4. FB Owen Marecic, Stanford
5. OT Lee Ziemba, Auburn
6. ILB Josh Bynes, Auburn
7. K Alex Henery, Nebraska

Own the world.

brat316 · 02-06-2011, 10:32 PM

ahha you play to much madden. Where would the $$$ come from?

Mr. Goosemahn · 02-06-2011, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bhaarat316

ahha you play to much madden. Where would the $$$ come from?

Releasing/not resigning Charlie Batch, Mewelde Moore, David Johnson, Tony Hills, Trai Essex, Nick Eason, Bryant McFadden, Jonathan Scott, Jeremy Kapinos, and Shaun Suisham.

And other funds, I guess.

mikehop05 · 02-06-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

Releasing/not resigning Charlie Batch, Mewelde Moore, David Johnson, Tony Hills, Trai Essex, Nick Eason, Bryant McFadden, Jonathan Scott, Jeremy Kapinos, and Shaun Suisham.

And other funds, I guess.

ill chip in 5 bucks, anyone else?

Hines · 02-06-2011, 11:03 PM

Resign CB Ike Taylor
Resign OT Willie Colon
Franchise OLB LaMarr Woodley
Sign CB Richard Marshall or Carlos Rogers
Sign DE Marcus Spears
Cut WR Antwaan Randle El
Cut WR Arnez Battle

1) Marcus Cannon OT/OG TCU
2) Jerrell Powe NT Ole Miss
3) Nate Irving LB NC State
4) Vincent Brown WR San Diego State
5) Virgil Green TE Nevada
6) Noel Devine RB West Virginia
7) Mark LeGree S Appalachian State

Mr. Goosemahn · 02-06-2011, 11:40 PM

We could be seeing a huge defensive overhaul in the next two years. Smith, Hampton, Keisel, Harrison, Farrior, Clark, Taylor, McFadden, Polamalu, all starters and all will be at least 30 next year.

Offensively, the overhaul already happened, only thing we're missing is O-line pieces. 28 year old QB, 23 year old RB, 28 year old TE, 24 year old receiver, 23 year old receiver, 22 year old receiver, 23 year old FB, 21 year old C.

Offense is set for the future, defense not so much. Other than Woodley, Timmons, Worilds, and Hood, we have no pieces for the future. At all. *** isn't a key future piece, neither is Mundy, or Keenan Lewis, or any other guy for that matter. I don't think Stevenson Sylvester will ever be a starter, just hoping Crezdon Butler can turn into a good CB.

If such an overhaul were to happen, would you guys prefer to rebuild for the 3-4, or allow Tomlin to switch to a 4-3?

The few young guys we have are pretty darn good fits for a 4-3, with Hood as a DT, Woodley and Worilds as DE's, and Timmons as an OLB.

Not saying it'll happen for sure, but just a thought.

brat316 · 02-06-2011, 11:46 PM

I don't know I think Sylvester will start to see a lot more playing time next year.

We need a major defensive draft. We have been drafting defensive players just not hitting the head on the nail with most of them. the last 4/5 dbs we drafted you'd think one would turn out decent.

Jakey · 02-07-2011, 09:59 AM

Tough loss. That is all.

Jakey · 02-07-2011, 10:07 AM

On to the positives:

1: Wallace, Sanders and Brown are all going to be studs for years to come. If Sweed can get healthy, that is the WR's sorted for at least the next few years.

2: Keenan Lewis played his ass off on special teams, might not be in the future plans, but he showed allot of heart last night.

3: Ziggy Hood has improved allot, wouldnt be suprised if he keeps a starting role next year.

4: Aikman called Pouncey the best rookie olineman he has ever seen, i agree.

5: Hopefully the terrible play of the DB's and Oline will highlight the fact that they need to be adressed in the draft/free agency.

6: Even more hopefully, the inept playcalling of Bruce Arians highlighted the fact that he is terrible and should be replaced (stoned to death).

Jakey · 02-07-2011, 10:57 AM

To the offseason:

Aaron Smith Retires
Charlie Batch Retires

Sign Nnamdi Asomugha (whatever it takes)
Sign Marcus Spears
Resign Ike Taylor
Franchise Lamarr Woodley
Resig Willie Colon

Draft: (abit different than my previous)

1: Marcus Cannon - RG - TCU - 6'6" 350lbs
2: Kelvin Sheppard - ILB - LSU - 6'3" 250lbs
3: Ahmad Black - FS - Florida - 5'9" - 200lbs
4: Johnny Patrick - CB - Louisville - 6'0" 190lbs
5: Noel Devine - RB - WVU - 5'8" 180lbs
6: Sione Fua - NT - Stanford - 6'2" 310lbs
7: Joseph Barksdale - T - LSU - 6'6" 320lbs

Depth Chart:

QB: Ben Roethlisberger
QB: Byron Leftwich
QB: Dennis Dixon

RB: Rashard Mendenhall
RB: Isaac Redman
RB: Jonathan Dwyer
RB: Noel Devine

FB: Isaac Redman/David Johnson

WR: Hines Ward
WR: Mike Wallace
WR: Emmanuel Sanders
WR: Antonio Brown
WR: Limas Sweed (hopefully)

TE: Heath Miller
TE: Matt Spaeth
TE: David Johnson

LT: Max Starks
LT: Jonathan Scott (blurgh)

LG: Chris Kemoeatu (blurgh)
LG: Ramon Foster

C: Maurkice Pouncey
C: Bronco Legursky

RG: Marcus Cannon
RG: Trai Essex (blurgh)

RT: Willie Colon
RT: Flozell Adams (hopefully)

...

RE: Brett Keisel
RE: Nick Eason

NT: Casey Hampton
NT: Chris Hoke
NT: Sione Fua

LE: Ziggy Hood
LE: Marcus Spears

ROLB: James Harrison
ROLB: Jason Worilds

ILB: Lawrence Timmons
ILB: James Farrior
ILB: Stevenson Sylvester
ILB: Kelvin Sheppard
ILB: Larry Foote (maybe)

LOLB: Lamarr Woodley
LOLB: Jason Worilds

CB: Nnamdi Asomugha
CB: Ike Taylor
CB: Bryant McFadden (maybe, not suited for the slot)
CB: William ***
CB: Johnny Patrick
CB: Keenan Lewis
CB: Crezdon Butler

FS: Ryan Clark
FS: Ahmad Black

SS: Troy Polamalu
SS: Ryan Mundy

K: Shaun Suisham (maybe)
P: Daniel Sepulveda

K Train · 02-07-2011, 01:02 PM

i am so ******* drepressed

Hines · 02-07-2011, 02:20 PM

The OL didn't lose us the game last night.

Mr. Goosemahn · 02-07-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

The OL didn't lose us the game last night.

Big props to Legursky who kept Raji in check all game long.

Big smack to Kemo who was constantly getting pushed back into the pocket.

Scott and Foster went unnoticed by me, usually being a good sign.

Adams was dinged up but kept on playing. Poor dude, he wanted it so much.

Mr. Goosemahn · 02-07-2011, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakey

On to the positives:

1: Wallace, Sanders and Brown are all going to be studs for years to come. If Sweed can get healthy, that is the WR's sorted for at least the next few years.

2: Keenan Lewis played his ass off on special teams, might not be in the future plans, but he showed allot of heart last night.

3: Ziggy Hood has improved allot, wouldnt be suprised if he keeps a starting role next year.

4: Aikman called Pouncey the best rookie olineman he has ever seen, i agree.

5: Hopefully the terrible play of the DB's and Oline will highlight the fact that they need to be adressed in the draft/free agency.

6: Even more hopefully, the inept playcalling of Bruce Arians highlighted the fact that he is terrible and should be replaced (stoned to death).

I'd add one more:

7. I had never seen Mendenhall run with so much conviction. That costly fumble really leaves a bad taste in the mouth when in reality it was a terrific game for him. He only fumbled twice in 320+ runs during the regular season, so it's not a huge problem. If he run like that game in an game out, we're going to gave a very good offense next year. He'll force defenses to stack up front.

Hines · 02-07-2011, 02:49 PM

One player I would LOVE to get is Champ Bailey. I read he is not going to resign with Denver and he possibly wants to play for a contender. If we talk to him and show him the love, while giving him decent money, I think we could land him. If we land him, resign Ike, draft a stud corner in round 1 or 2, then move BMac to nickle, we could have a very good secondary with our pass rush. I just hope the Rooneys and Colbert do that.

Mr. Goosemahn · 02-07-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakey

To the offseason:

Aaron Smith Retires
Charlie Batch Retires

Sign Nnamdi Asomugha (whatever it takes)
Sign Marcus Spears
Resign Ike Taylor
Franchise Lamarr Woodley
Resign Willie Colon

Draft: (abit different than my previous)

1: Marcus Cannon - RG - TCU - 6'6" 350lbs
2: Kelvin Sheppard - ILB - LSU - 6'3" 250lbs
3: Ahmad Black - FS - Florida - 5'9" - 200lbs
4: Johnny Patrick - CB - Louisville - 6'0" 190lbs
5: Noel Devine - RB - WVU - 5'8" 180lbs
6: Sione Fua - NT - Stanford - 6'2" 310lbs
7: Joseph Barksdale - T - LSU - 6'6" 320lbs

Depth Chart:

QB: Ben Roethlisberger
QB: Byron Leftwich
QB: Dennis Dixon

RB: Rashard Mendenhall
RB: Isaac Redman
RB: Jonathan Dwyer
RB: Noel Devine

FB: Isaac Redman/David Johnson

WR: Hines Ward
WR: Mike Wallace
WR: Emmanuel Sanders
WR: Antonio Brown
WR: Limas Sweed (hopefully)

TE: Heath Miller
TE: Matt Spaeth
TE: David Johnson

LT: Max Starks
LT: Jonathan Scott (blurgh)

LG: Chris Kemoeatu (blurgh)
LG: Ramon Foster

C: Maurkice Pouncey
C: Bronco Legursky

RG: Marcus Cannon
RG: Trai Essex (blurgh)

RT: Willie Colon
RT: Flozell Adams (hopefully)

...

RE: Brett Keisel
RE: Nick Eason

NT: Casey Hampton
NT: Chris Hoke
NT: Sione Fua

LE: Ziggy Hood
LE: Marcus Spears

ROLB: James Harrison
ROLB: Jason Worilds

ILB: Lawrence Timmons
ILB: James Farrior
ILB: Stevenson Sylvester
ILB: Kelvin Sheppard
ILB: Larry Foote (maybe)

LOLB: Lamarr Woodley
LOLB: Jason Worilds

CB: Nnamdi Asomugha
CB: Ike Taylor
CB: Bryant McFadden (maybe, not suited for the slot)
CB: William ***
CB: Johnny Patrick
CB: Keenan Lewis
CB: Crezdon Butler

FS: Ryan Clark
FS: Ahmad Black

SS: Troy Polamalu
SS: Ryan Mundy

K: Shaun Suisham (maybe)
P: Daniel Sepulveda

I like it. IMO, Ahmad Black would be the perfect extra nickel DB for us. Not a huge guy, but he's got good awareness and always seems to make a play.

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Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

One player I would LOVE to get is Champ Bailey. I read he is not going to resign with Denver and he possibly wants to play for a contender. If we talk to him and show him the love, while giving him decent money, I think we could land him. If we land him, resign Ike, draft a stud corner in round 1 or 2, then move BMac to nickle, we could have a very good secondary with our pass rush. I just hope the Rooneys and Colbert do that.

Agreed. He's kinda old so I don't think he'll get a huge deal anyways, but he'd be perfect opposite Ike. He still plays at a very high level.

Mr. Goosemahn · 02-07-2011, 05:07 PM

Also, the Cardinals are formally pursuing Keith Butler to be their defensive coordinator. Sources within the Steelers organization believe he will take the job.

Hines · 02-07-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

I like it. IMO, Ahmad Black would be the perfect extra nickel DB for us. Not a huge guy, but he's got good awareness and always seems to make a play.

Agreed. He's kinda old so I don't think he'll get a huge deal anyways, but he'd be perfect opposite Ike. He still plays at a very high level.

He'll only be 33, which isn't bad. I'd LOVE to have Champ here. If he goes for the money, goodbye and we can go after another corner, but if he wants to win, sign him for anything since he'll be one of the second tier guys IMO.

Hines · 02-07-2011, 09:13 PM

Oh my god, I had all this **** type out and ready to post. It was so ******* awesome too, and my computer froze up and it got deleted. :(

brat316 · 02-07-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

Also, the Cardinals are formally pursuing Keith Butler to be their defensive coordinator. Sources within the Steelers organization believe he will take the job.

Steelers of West continue.

I was thinking of Cbs isn't Leon Hall or Jonathan Joesph one of their contracts up?

Its JJ, what you guys think of him?