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Old 07-25-2010, 10:24 PM    (permalink
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I know this whole not carrying Roy Williams shoulder pads story should probably be in team discussion forum. But I just gotta say I love the little gesture by the rook.

It just screams to Roy Williams "Im here for your job, *****!"

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Maybe not team forum but it could have went in the Dez thread we all ready have going.:)

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41956

As for the story I think he should just man up and carry the pads it's just part of being a rookie.
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Maybe not team forum but it could have went in the Dez thread we all ready have going.:)

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41956

As for the story I think he should just man up and carry the pads it's just part of being a rookie.
Well a mod can feel free to move it or delete it.
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That bum should be carrying Dez's pads.
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Just giving you a hard time no big deal.
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That bum should be carrying Dez's pads.
Haha, for real. Dez hasn't even played a down yet, and I'm sure he's already done more for the cowboys than R.E.W.
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I kind of hate when rookies do this, just carry the pads, who cares, you're a rookie it happens.
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This. Roy Williams sucks.
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This was the first time I heard this story. Oh well, shows how much respect Roy has. If TO was still here and done the same gesture, I bet he would have done it. Roy should just be happy he's close to making 10 million dollars a season for the crap he's done the past 2 seasons.
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eh Dez shouldve just sucked it up and carried the pads IMO

this definitely wasn't newsworthy though
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Williams should quit bitching. He's had his chance to prove himself.
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i would have told roy to **** off.

then i would have proceeded to walk over to miles austin and ask if he'd like me to carry his pads
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You could pretty much spin this anyway you want to from Dez meaning it personal to REW to Dez putting himself above the other rookies in status to Dez being focused on his business and not silly, little rookie "rights of passage." *shrug*
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People are going to look back on the past three years and remember them as the the drafts GMs overreacted to perceived character red flags and let perceived "diva" WRs drop waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far. The Michael Vick Saga as well as the Pacman Jones story and all the hoopla that surrounded Big Ben, etc., etc., etc., we all know the list goes on... it made many teams way too cautious on draft day. And the Eagles, Niners, and Cowboys were the beneficiaries.

DeSean Jackson
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It's a joke he fell all the way to Dallas. A joke.
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People are going to look back on the past three years and remember them as the the drafts GMs overreacted to perceived character red flags and let perceived "diva" WRs drop waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far. The Michael Vick Saga as well as the Pacman Jones story and all the hoopla that surrounded Big Ben, etc., etc., etc., we all know the list goes on... it made many teams way too cautious on draft day. And the Eagles, Niners, and Cowboys were the beneficiaries.

DeSean Jackson
Michael Crabtree
Dez Bryant

It's a joke he fell all the way to Dallas. A joke.
You can also throw Percy Harvin's name in that group.
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You can also throw Percy Harvin's name in that group.
Excellent point. You surely can.
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i would have told roy to **** off.

then i would have proceeded to walk over to miles austin and ask if he'd like me to carry his pads
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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People are going to look back on the past three years and remember them as the the drafts GMs overreacted to perceived character red flags and let perceived "diva" WRs drop waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far. The Michael Vick Saga as well as the Pacman Jones story and all the hoopla that surrounded Big Ben, etc., etc., etc., we all know the list goes on... it made many teams way too cautious on draft day. And the Eagles, Niners, and Cowboys were the beneficiaries.

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It's a joke he fell all the way to Dallas. A joke.
Not often a top 5 player falls to 24. Demarius Thomas had no business going ahead of Dez. ****** McDaniels...
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Not often a top 5 player falls to 24. Demarius Thomas had no business going ahead of Dez. ****** McDaniels...
And yet it happened with D-Jax, Percy AND Dez in consecutive years... That's just bad risk-reward management...
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People are going to look back on the past three years and remember them as the the drafts GMs overreacted to perceived character red flags and let perceived "diva" WRs drop waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far. The Michael Vick Saga as well as the Pacman Jones story and all the hoopla that surrounded Big Ben, etc., etc., etc., we all know the list goes on... it made many teams way too cautious on draft day. And the Eagles, Niners, and Cowboys were the beneficiaries.

DeSean Jackson
Michael Crabtree
Dez Bryant

It's a joke he fell all the way to Dallas. A joke.


I agree with your point, and would also add Harvin in, but Desean was just so little it'd be tough to argue with him going that high even though the talent is there. Crabs and Dez had prototypical WR size for #1 guys, and Harvin was ripped up when he showed up at the combines.


People probably weren't sure Desean could be a #1 WR just yet, but it would be a big risk considering he was so little, and technically still is.
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And yet it happened with D-Jax, Percy AND Dez in consecutive years... That's just bad risk-reward management...
It's arguable that Jackson and Harvin were clearly top 5 talents in their drafts. In my mind, it was pretty ******* clear that Bryant was. He's going to be a stud in Dallas.

That said, you carry his pads because that's your onus as a rookie. Then you take his job.
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He should have just carried the pads, all rookies go through this kind of hazing. This is actually one of the less harsh ones.

I know a lot of you are saying "good for him" and "f*** roy williams" when in actuality it has nothing to do with roy williams. you can generalize roy to the whole incumbent team. Even though Roy Williams hasnt been on the cowboys that much longer than Dez he's still a veteran.

Dez refusing to go through the little trials and tribulations faced by all rookies is going to cause a bad precedent for the locker room. Trust me people dont take these things lightly and he'll most likely have to work that much harder to gain the support of the existing veterans on that team.

^^ i dont know if any of that made any sense.

btw. in the nba all rookies go through some type of rookie hazing even though many times (and i mean MANY times) the rookie is already better than most players on the team.
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^ I know that people had the size knocks on Harvin and DJax, but not me. I had Percy projected as a top five guy since his freshman year and all he did was get stronger since then.

As for DJax, people all worried about his size, but as I pointed out leading up to the draft, he weighed in so light because he was training to run a ridiculous 40 (which he did). And people loved using the "can he be a #1 WR" because of the size factor (means nothing - proven every year) and because he was known as an electricity guy (returns) comparable to Reggie Bush (who was a completely different offensive position), ignoring the fact that Jackson was a very good collegiate pure wide receiver, quite polished, and definitely pro-ready.

Sorry for the rant, but I never thought otherwise - maybe not top 5 if you counted off the prospects, but none of those guys had any business going outside the top ten, and a lot of us (including me) recognized that blunder beforehand, and now we can all agree in hindsight.

DJax must have been the biggest A-hole in the world at his interviews. That's the only explanation.
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Jackson was 168 pounds. There was a serious question as to whether he'd get folded in half immediately. It's wasn't really a concern to me, I had him projected as a top 10 guy at one point, but I understood the concern. Harvin was a bit of a positional mystery. He hadn't been tested as a wideout at Florida and no one believed he'd make it as a tailback in the NFL, so the concern was that he'd never master a position enough to be worth a pick that high. That concern I thought was a little more legitimate, even if it has proven so far to be wrong.

Bryant, on the other hand, was dominant and brilliant in college in exactly the way an NFL receiver needs to be.
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I just hope Dez remembers this in a few years when he's a veteran and some rookie WR comes in.
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