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Old 08-09-2010, 07:15 PM    (permalink
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I heard an interview with Charlie Casserly and he was saying that Goodell is basically just using the threat of an 18 game season as leverage. All these things we keep hearing about such as rookie wage scale, and 18 game seasons are just bargaining chips that are being used to get the other side to agree on other issues.
I'm going to side with the camp that says there is more money coming in with two more regular season games.
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I had very high hopes for Ahmad Brooks who was settling into a pass rushing role at OLB and I saw him breaking out this season with 10+ sacks. Any word on when he can potentially return?
Brooks will be evaluated in 2 weeks. They will check for blood in and around the kidney. If the tear was minor it will likely heal on its own and Brooks can resume full-contact shortly after the 2 week window. If the tear is serious (which it doesn't appear to be) he could require surgery and miss significant time. From what I've read and heard from Coach Sing, everyone is optimistic that it is the latter.

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With Heitmann out 6-8 weeks, the 49ers will likely start the most highly drafted Offensive Line in the history of the NFL.

Joe Staley [28] | Mike Iupati [17] | Davis Baas [33] | Chilo Rachal [39] | Anthony Davis [11]

If only draft position was displayed as ability on the field.
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Cincinnati Bengals running back Brian Leonard could be out for quite a while, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer.

Leonard incurred a "significant" foot injury during a Hall of Fame game loss to the Dallas Cowboys and is set to see a specialit to determine if it's more than a spained foot.

Per the report, Leonard could be out as long as the remainder of the preseason or possibly done for the year.

“I’m very concerned," quarterback Carson Palmer said. "He’s a big-time player for us and we have a lot of things built in specifically for him.
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Goodell had a line the other day I saw where he said "well, we have the shortest season in professional sports, and there are already 20 games, it just happens that we're looking into to keeping the same amount of games, but making more of them count" or some **** like that.

Clearly, Roger, those preseason games are just like the regular season ones! You just can't choke the same amount of money out of them.
If you think about it, though, the only real money they're losing out on is parking and concessions. Preseason games cost the same amount as regular season games, and the majority of teams are sold out on a season ticket basis. So even though people may not go, the seats are still bought and paid for.

Don't know if the teams get paid as much for TV rights for preseason (but I assume they are). Plus, the players aren't being paid regular season salary yet, so that's a huge savings they're making.

I really don't see any benefit to a longer season. Way to many cons, hardly any pros.

Sidenote: The Sox/Yanks game yesterday got a 2.6 rating. The HoF game: 7.6.

That is just utterly ridiculous.
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Football is on the top of the sporting world, and nothing is even close to challenging them. There better not be a lockout. They have such a good thing going, derailing it would be crazy.

But just think of those TV numbers, thats like the equivalent of a MLB spring traning game beating out Packers/Vikings on MNF.
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If you think about it, though, the only real money they're losing out on is parking and concessions. Preseason games cost the same amount as regular season games, and the majority of teams are sold out on a season ticket basis. So even though people may not go, the seats are still bought and paid for.

Don't know if the teams get paid as much for TV rights for preseason (but I assume they are). Plus, the players aren't being paid regular season salary yet, so that's a huge savings they're making.

I really don't see any benefit to a longer season. Way to many cons, hardly any pros.
I don't think preseason games have to be sold out to be on local TV. I have no idea how the revenue for preseason games works, but I imagine that most of it goes to the team. I think they are probably earning less during the preseason but spending less, so it's probably a wash.
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SAN DIEGO -- An injury plague has struck San Diego Chargers left tackles.
Presumptive starter Brandyn Dombrowski missed his second straight practice on Monday, the same day it was announced that current backup Nick Richmond will have arthroscopic knee surgery and miss two weeks.

Veteran tackle Tra Thomas is out another week after having the same procedure last week.

That left guard Tyronne Green to work with the first team at left tackle, a position he first assumed on Saturday.

Left tackle Marcus McNeill is holding out in a contract dispute.
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This injury thread is brutal...... Dumervil is the biggest one so far, who's the next biggest injury so far this camp?

For our Packers, 2 starters are out:
All-Rookie Clay Matthews with a hamstring, is out 2-4 weeks estimate.
Safety Atari Bigby had ankle surgery on Friday, will probably miss the first 6 games on the PUP list.
Of course, brother Al Harris is still out with the ACL/MCL and might start the year on PUP and miss 6 weeks. That's 3 of 11 starters on defense already affected. But it's nothing compared to losing Elvis for the year.

My condolences to Bronco fan.... I fricking hate those injuries.
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8/10/2010, 10:13 am

Cleveland Browns starting cornerback Eric Wright has injured his right leg during practice according to the Associated Press.

Wright got hurt during 7-on-7 drills about halfway through the Browns' morning workout Tuesday. He was attended to on the sideline by trainers, who put an ice wrap on Wright's leg. He limped to the team's training facility for further treatment.

Wright's injury appeared to be to his hamstring.
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Cincinnati Bengals running back Brian Leonard could be out for quite a while, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer.

Leonard incurred a "significant" foot injury during a Hall of Fame game loss to the Dallas Cowboys and is set to see a specialit to determine if it's more than a spained foot.

Per the report, Leonard could be out as long as the remainder of the preseason or possibly done for the year.

Im very concerned," quarterback Carson Palmer said. "Hes a big-time player for us and we have a lot of things built in specifically for him.
Early reports were severe but the newer ones have said 4-6 weeks.
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Goodell had a line the other day I saw where he said "well, we have the shortest season in professional sports, and there are already 20 games, it just happens that we're looking into to keeping the same amount of games, but making more of them count" or some **** like that.

Clearly, Roger, those preseason games are just like the regular season ones! You just can't choke the same amount of money out of them.
Not an apples to apples comparison there, Mr. Commish. Take the finest physical specimen b-ball or MLB players & put them through 16 NFL games in 17 fall/winter weeks in northern outdoor stadiums -- watch how fast they all go on IR.

The schedule is too long as it is. I've been saying for yrs. that teams s/b playing division opponents once vs. twice a season, but the NFL makes bigtime $ pushing those divisional rivalry games which draw the highest TV ratings & are almost always sellouts twice annually. Currently the system advantages those teams dominating their divisions, like Indy in the AFC South, etc. & loser teams take a change of 2-3 new HCs & 5-8 yrs. of drafts to become better or even competitive. The argument stands that the NFL had a lower %age of injury when there was a 12 game season.

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I heard an interview with Charlie Casserly and he was saying that Goodell is basically just using the threat of an 18 game season as leverage. All these things we keep hearing about such as rookie wage scale, and 18 game seasons are just bargaining chips that are being used to get the other side to agree on other issues.
Now that Casserly argument sounds close to the truth, the ball of the new CBA negotiation is already in play & Goodell is nothing but a player. He's all about the revenue per game & everyday fans as well as season ticket holders everywhere paying more & more are hating him more each yr.

So far in terms of notable player injuries the Ravens & Broncos with Dumervil are hardest hit. Dallas is running out of TE depth after their #3 TE Philips lost for the yr. injury & #4 Sicko has a concussion after the HoF game, the Bengals are worse with the Leonard injury that's still TBD now. 3 49ers had concussions last weekend including backup TE Delanie Walker, their best ST player, & it looks like they've lost Heitmann whose old body seems further beat up every yr. -- this one could be career-ending if it's serious enough.

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He's had migraines his whole adult life, IDK if he missed any games at Florida b/c of them though. And WR Sidney Rice has a reported hip injury
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He's had migraines his whole adult life, IDK if he missed any games at Florida b/c of them though. And WR Sidney Rice has a reported hip injury
I think he missed one game due to migraines while at UF, in his sophomore season.

TBH, migraines are probably the reason why he smoked so damn much. Seems like the problem is getting more persistent now that he can't smoke at all.
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I think he missed one game due to migraines while at UF, in his sophomore season.

TBH, migraines are probably the reason why he smoked so damn much. Seems like the problem is getting more persistent now that he can't smoke at all.
when the vikings relocate to LA he'll be better
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I think he missed one game due to migraines while at UF, in his sophomore season.

TBH, migraines are probably the reason why he smoked so damn much. Seems like the problem is getting more persistent now that he can't smoke at all.
Eh, I had a friend in college who dealt with frequent migraines and she said smoking made them worse. Great for stomach problems and muscle aches, bad for headaches...
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Eh, I had a friend in college who dealt with frequent migraines and she said smoking made them worse. Great for stomach problems and muscle aches, bad for headaches...
Mmm..depends on the person and what kind of herb it is. If it's chemmed-out, hydroponic herb I could definitely see it making your head hurt.

I got my medical license for migraine (I don't get them often, but they're awful when they do strike), and it's one of the few things that helps. I also cannot tell how many times it has saved me from guesome hangovers (the kind where it hurts to even open your eyes).
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I dont see how smoking could help a migraine.
Ive had two in my life, and both resulted in me not being able to keep my balance, see straight, and puking everywhere. Had to be knocked out by percs both times. I wouldn't even have the strength to use a lighter once a migraine struck.
Maybe a headache could be nullified by pot, but a migraine is a different animal.
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I dont see how smoking could help a migraine.
Ive had two in my life, and both resulted in me not being able to keep my balance, see straight, and puking everywhere. Had to be knocked out by percs both times. I wouldn't even have the strength to use a lighter once a migraine struck.
Maybe a headache could be nullified by pot, but a migraine is a different animal.
Her migraines were bad like yours. She'd see spots, break out in a sweat, lose balance, become super sensitive to light......awful stuff.

Even regular headaches in my own experience haven't been helped much by pot. For pretty much anything else, it's a godsend cure, but it doesn't work as well for headaches in my experience.
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methamphetamine's are much more effective for headaches..........so some guy once told me.
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Her migraines were bad like yours. She'd see spots, break out in a sweat, lose balance, become super sensitive to light......awful stuff.

Even regular headaches in my own experience haven't been helped much by pot. For pretty much anything else, it's a godsend cure, but it doesn't work as well for headaches in my experience.
I can sympathize. Your vision is definitely the first thing that changes. I remember it being spotty, blurry, and really out of focus for a while before it hit. Then a slight headache, then nauseousness, then the head really starts pounding. By this time you can't really keep your balance, and the vomiting comes. It sucks. I've only had two in my life, so if Percy suffers through these a lot I sympathize with him. There's no way I could function at all, let alone do something athletically with a migraine coming on.
It's completely different than a bad headache which lots of people confuse it with.
Anyway, enough migraine talk.

The Packers have been relatively healthy this year, but CMIII is out a couple weeks. Better not be serious. He may be our most important player this year minus ARod.
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But yeah apparently America is the world.
I meant as in the North American sports scene, but apparently the NFL dwarfs even the number 2 league (English Premier League) in profit as well.
http://ca.askmen.com/sports/business..._business.html
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A 4th round receiver is pushing for your #2 receiver spot.....and then he gets hurt, possibly out for the year.

The Bills are either going to be hilariously bad, or shock the world by going 4-12.
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A 4th round receiver is pushing for your #2 receiver spot.....and then he gets hurt, possibly out for the year.

The Bills are either going to be hilariously bad, or shock the world by going 4-12.
Their talent base is absolutely awful, but I like the Chan Gailey hire.
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I don't know. I thought Chan Gailey was a pretty awful hire. I guess we'll see.
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