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Old 08-07-2010, 09:24 AM    (permalink
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Preseason was the only time i got to see Colt Brennan ZomGzz
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Maybe if they didn't charge full price for pre-season tickets (and parking), more people would show up. Pre-season isn't about the fans, you ******, it's about teams getting a chance to figure out who to keep on their team.

It's like getting rid of Spring Training... You know what will happen if there's only 2 pre-season games? The starters won't play at all (maybe a quarter in one of the games), and the regular season games will be really ****** in the first and last few weeks.
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This is stupid, but in reality an 18 game schedule is most likely going to happen.
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**** 18 games. goodell you are a *****
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I wonder if people irrationally hated when the NFL turned two of the pre-season games into regular season games in 1978..
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The problem that I have with more games is teams tanking the last month of a season, as opposed to one or two games. Goodell has already complained about having a more competitive end of the season, but you can't have your cake and eat it, too with this situation. It'll only make it worse.
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The problem that I have with more games is teams tanking the last month of a season, as opposed to one or two games. Goodell has already complained about having a more competitive end of the season, but you can't have your cake and eat it, too with this situation. It'll only make it worse.
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If teams are struggling to fill stadiums already, who the **** is going to attend that week 19 game when their team has, to that point, lost 16 games?
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**** an 18 game schedule.
While I don't watch much pre-season games... I think hate for it to go away.
I know it's all about shoring up those last roster spots and finding gems.
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I think it's a perfect balance that has worked for awhile is all. nothing irrational about it.
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Why wasn't 14 perfectly balanced?
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People hate this idea because of who came up with it. Just 2-3 years ago there was a huge crowd (on and off this board) who wanted to cut down the preseason games to two or three games. Now because Roger Goodell is actually going to do it, all of these people suddenly love the preseason. If Paul Tagliabue came up with this idea, everyone would be on board with it. As long as the NFL teams give the players more compensation for the longer season, this is a great idea.
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It's a terrible idea, and I'd hate it in any situation.
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People hate this idea because of who came up with it. Just 2-3 years ago there was a huge crowd (on and off this board) who wanted to cut down the preseason games to two or three games. Now because Roger Goodell is actually going to do it, all of these people suddenly love the preseason. If Paul Tagliabue came up with this idea, everyone would be on board with it. As long as the NFL teams give the players more compensation for the longer season, this is a great idea.
I don't think the cutting down of the preseason is that big a deal, it's the lengthening of the regular season that is worrisome.
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People hate this idea because of who came up with it. Just 2-3 years ago there was a huge crowd (on and off this board) who wanted to cut down the preseason games to two or three games. Now because Roger Goodell is actually going to do it, all of these people suddenly love the preseason. If Paul Tagliabue came up with this idea, everyone would be on board with it. As long as the NFL teams give the players more compensation for the longer season, this is a great idea.

Not really. I don't care for extra games when most of the NFL at the moment is already about who is the most healthy going into the playoffs, and not who the best team really is.

I also think the balance is basically perfect at the moment. The NFL has it right, it's this popular for a reason, the formula is working.

I don't want to see the sanctity of things like 2000 yards rushing being screwed.

I know people will point to how it used to be 14 games and all, but the league has grown and expanded over the last 30+ years and the 16 game schedule has been perfect IMO.

4 preseason games is fine, or you can even cut 1-2 out and add an extra bye week, just don't increase to 18 games.

Personally, I like the preseason, and go to the games when I can get tickets.
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People hate this idea because of who came up with it. Just 2-3 years ago there was a huge crowd (on and off this board) who wanted to cut down the preseason games to two or three games. Now because Roger Goodell is actually going to do it, all of these people suddenly love the preseason. If Paul Tagliabue came up with this idea, everyone would be on board with it. As long as the NFL teams give the players more compensation for the longer season, this is a great idea.
I've always hated the idea of extending the season. I've always hated the idea of cutting the preseason. I hate the people that relentlessly hate on Goodell.
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It's surprising to me that so few support this idea. I watch every preseason game I can (<3 NFLN replays!!) . . . right up until the starters come out and then I shut that **** off. Even Patriots games are tough for me to watch all the way through b/c evaluating the players late in the game is pointless, as they are playing similarly weak competition.

The practice time would be enough to evaluate players well enough to make the roster decisions. Preseason games are not that big of a factor. If two guys are very close then a preseason performance may be the clincher, but it's mostly what coaches and staff see all week that matters. And, since the roster will be expanded if the league goes to 18 games, there's room for the extra players anyway.

Teams, coaches, and players will all adjust just fine. Get rid of meaningless football, please. Thank you Mr. Goodell!
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Apparently NOT!
Apparently I am the only one who doesn't.

What I hate about preason games is I basically watch them holding my breath, just praying that my guys don't tear ACLs for something that doesn't count anyway.

Also, I hate it when a guy does great, as great as he could possibly do, and he still gets f***ed, cut. Last year for example our rookie RB Tyrell Sutton looked like Darren Sproles to me.

But the media and the team seemed to feel it was because he was playing against non-starters, so they cut him.
That guy couldn't have done anymore to earn a job than he did.

Also, I remember Tony Romo and Miles Austin getting rave reviews from practices. People gotta remember, for every hour on the field in a practice game, they'd practiced for 10-20 hours with coaches watching.... they can tell a guy can play or not in intrasquad practices and scrimmages.

Again, I'm still bitter that Tyrell Sutton wasn't kept.
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I think it's worth the bump here . . .

Last night's Patriots vs. Saints game was not even aired in the full local market. It was only aired on a local Boston affiliate, apparently. I'm not sure if the same was true in NH, VT, or ME but RI & CT viewers were not even provided the opportunity to watch.
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2012 looks like it could be the year.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...e=HP_headlines

I dont see why the owners are pushing for this
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Nobody watches preseason games, so no networks air it - even in local markets. I can't watch the Pats game even though I'm 30 minutes away from Foxboro. That is lost revenue. The games don't sell tickets. More lost revenue. Less fans at the game means less $$ in parking fees, concessions and any of the gazillion revenue generating shops / eateries / etc. built into that snazzy new building at a Patriot Place.
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Already, teams have been experimenting with joint workouts in training camp, believing those sessions could help replace the shorter preseason. This year, for instance, the Atlanta Falcons worked out with both the Patriots and Jacksonville Jaguars.
This was one of the most interesting parts of camp this year for me. The coverage of Pats v. Saints and Pats v. Falcons joint workouts leading up to their games was more exciting than any previous preseason. I see it as a win / win. Preseason games are reduced - less boring, meaningless games; regular season is extended so we have more meaningful football; intrasquad practices make training camp more fun.

win / win / win technically. ; )
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Worse yet, the pre-season tickets are still added unto Season Ticket prices. So the fans are punished for games that they don't want to see.
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If teams are struggling to fill stadiums already, who the **** is going to attend that week 19 game when their team has, to that point, lost 16 games?
Who cares. The revenue from the TV broadcasts will easily dwarf stadium costs.
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He's using the fans as an excuse, but all this comes down to is it's a way to get the NFL more money.
Yep.

The owners are the ones pushing and the players aren't really fighting it because they know it means more money and jobs. They could all care less what the fans want.
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