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Old 08-20-2010, 08:38 PM    (permalink
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If only it were just that. Come on, he hasn't looked good all preseason. And he's looked mediocre for 2 years now.

I like the Bengals, and I like Palmer too, but he's just done. He's not a good qb anymore.
You mean 2 years as in 2008 when he only played 4 games and 2009 when he only had 1 WR?
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A. The Eagles offensive line is ******* terrible. They used 3 guys to block one while Maualuga went unblocked at Kolb.

B. Rey Maualuga is painfully slow.
Coming off a hammy issue.
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Johnson is one awkward looking OLB.
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The Eagles offensive line is ******* terrible.
Either Kolb learns to throw while rolling out or get some increased medical insurance, he's going to get killed out there.

Wait til he faces Demarcus Ware, or Okrapo & Haynesworth. It won't be pretty....
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I don't know if I'd call it yet, but Carson Palmer has never been the same since the knee. He was a Top 5 QB before that hit. Now? He's probably 3rd in the AFC North.

I keep thinking he's going to just all of a sudden come back every year, but it has not happened and I don't think there's a good chance it ever will.
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I don't know if I'd call it yet, but Carson Palmer has never been the same since the knee. He was a Top 5 QB before that hit. Now? He's probably 3rd in the AFC North.

I keep thinking he's going to just all of a sudden come back every year, but it has not happened and I don't think there's a good chance it ever will.
You know his best years were probably 06-07?
It was the shoulder/elbow in 08 that hurt him
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You mean 2 years as in 2008 when he only played 4 games and 2009 when he only had 1 WR?
yup.


if he blows chunks this year, what will his excuse be?
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Anyone else feel like TO is going to have a bigger year then 85?
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I love Gresham. He's gonna be a beast.


I want to see more Michael Johnson from Cinncy on defense. I like what I saw out of him last week. If he realizes his potential, that defense is gonna go from great to scary.
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yup.


if he blows chunks this year, what will his excuse be?
He wont have one.
Brady sucked in 2008 too.
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if he blows chunks this year, what will his excuse be?
I don't think he'll be chunk-blowingly bad with the talent around him on offense. Even if he isn't spectacular, I don't think he'll be any worse than an average, game-manager type. And they have the talent elsewhere to succeed with that.
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You know his best years were probably 06-07?
It was the shoulder/elbow in 08 that hurt him
His best year was the year he got hit in the knee. He doesn't get hurt, the Bengals win that game and were a real contender to win that Superbowl.
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I love Gresham. He's gonna be a beast.


I want to see more Michael Johnson from Cinncy on defense. I like what I saw out of him last week. If he realizes his potential, that defense is gonna go from great to scary.
MJ is scary. He is 6-7 and plays DE and OLB. He can play both spots in a 4-3 too.
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His best year was the year he got hit in the knee. He doesn't get hurt, the Bengals win that game and were a real contender to win that Superbowl.
If we had a defense in 06 or 07 we are too.
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He wont have one.
Brady sucked in 2008 too.
Brady was injured in week 1 of 2008.

In 2009, he had 4,400 yards 28 TDs and 13 INTs
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Brady was injured in week 1 of 2008.

In 2009, he had 4,400 yards 28 TDs and 13 INTs
No. The season counts against him. Carson missed it and it counts against him.
If Carson had Randy Moss and Wes Welker, I am sure he would have too.
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Palmer has enough talent around to dink and dunk and be successful, but it is sad that such a great deep ball thrower is now relegated to 5-7 yard route tree.
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MJ is scary. He is 6-7 and plays DE and OLB. He can play both spots in a 4-3 too.
I love MJ. That was a 3rd round steal. I guess everyone overreacted to Vernon Gholston the year before and Johnson fell because of it. Cinncy took advantage of that.

Imagine him realizing his potential and Dunlap realizing his? Can you imagine how sick that dline will be in the future with Dunlap, MJ, and Geno Atkins?

I love me some Geno Atkins too. I love that Cinncy defense. Its so slept on.
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Anyone else feel like TO is going to have a bigger year then 85?
I do. He will improve while Ochocinco declines & drops more balls than TO. 85 is becoming a bad joke fast
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Brady was injured in week 1 of 2008.

In 2009, he had 4,400 yards 28 TDs and 13 INTs
And people say he had a "down" year if that's a down year I would give my left nut for Cassel to have a down year.
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I love MJ. That was a 3rd round steal. I guess everyone overreacted to Vernon Gholston the year before and Johnson fell because of it. Cinncy took advantage of that.

Imagine him realizing his potential and Dunlap realizing his? Can you imagine how sick that dline will be in the future with Dunlap, MJ, and Geno Atkins?

I love me some Geno Atkins too. I love that Cinncy defense. Its so slept on.
All of those guys, Atkins to a less extent I suppose, were so boom or bust it wasn't funny. MJ seemed just as likely to be Vernon Gholston as he was the beast he is turning into. I don't think anyone denied his (or Dunlap's for that matter) talent, but he needed lots of work, and to their credit, the Bengals have giving it to him.
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I love MJ. That was a 3rd round steal. I guess everyone overreacted to Vernon Gholston the year before and Johnson fell because of it. Cinncy took advantage of that.

Imagine him realizing his potential and Dunlap realizing his? Can you imagine how sick that dline will be in the future with Dunlap, MJ, and Geno Atkins?

I love me some Geno Atkins too. I love that Cinncy defense. Its so slept on.
Everything here is.

Dunlap was getting great pressure on Tebow, which surprised me with how much time he missed with a concussion. Atkins is a manimal.

Keep an eye out for big Dre on offense.
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Btw guys, Kevin Kolb is looking just how I expected him to look. When you're in the league for 3 years and youre STILL staring down your targets....

...not good.
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Damn, they are getting on the illegal formation penalties now
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All of those guys, Atkins to a less extent I suppose, were so boom or bust it wasn't funny. MJ seemed just as likely to be Vernon Gholston as he was the beast he is turning into. I don't think anyone denied his (or Dunlap's for that matter) talent, but he needed lots of work, and to their credit, the Bengals have giving it to him.
Just about everyone the Bengals draft is boom or bust/lightning in a bottle.

Michael Johnson was a ***** his last year of college. He would get washed out by tight ends. It was pitiful.
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