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Old 09-07-2010, 07:55 AM    (permalink
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And their other OOC games?
Alabama and Texas' other non-conference games include Wyoming and San Jose State. Teams that are in Boise's conference. Teams that Boise State plays most weeks are considered powderpuffs for the top programs.

People keep trying to defend Boise's right to play in the title game by pointing out the weak opponents other teams schedule. 9 of Boise's 12 games consist of teams that are easy wins for the top programs.
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The WAC is a joke. They're all terrible teams outside of Boise. You can defend Boise all you want because of what they've done, but there is no denying that the wac is a complete joke.
Fresno State just beat the defending Big east champion.
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Fresno State just beat the defending Big east champion.
With a new coach and a ton of players gone, at home.

And the Big East sucks as well. Cincy won't win the Big East this year.
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With a new coach and a ton of players gone, at home.

And the Big East sucks as well. Cincy won't win the Big East this year.
Do you have anymore excuses to discredit anything these schools do?
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Alabama and Texas' other non-conference games include Wyoming and San Jose State. Teams that are in Boise's conference. Teams that Boise State plays most weeks are considered powderpuffs for the top programs.

People keep trying to defend Boise's right to play in the title game by pointing out the weak opponents other teams schedule. 9 of Boise's 12 games consist of teams that are easy wins for the top programs.
If they are going to schedule powderpuffs like Wyoming, why not schedule a so called powderpuff like Boise?

If you play powderpuffs, and are in a powderpuff division you must be a powderpuff.

I don't know about putting them in THE BCS championship game, but at least a much better bowl and not against TCU. This calls for a move to the playoff system.

At least Utah got what it deserved.
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Do you have anymore excuses to discredit anything these schools do?
Nope, just saying whats true.
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Actually if both are just one loss teams I'd love to see a BCS rematch of TCU and Boise, I still believe TCU was the better team last year and tbh I'd give TCU the edge this year. Neither though is as good as they were a year ago.
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If they are going to schedule powderpuffs like Wyoming, why not schedule a so called powderpuff like Boise?

If you play powderpuffs, and are in a powderpuff division you must be a powderpuff.

I don't know about putting them in THE BCS championship game, but at least a much better bowl and not against TCU. This calls for a move to the playoff system.

At least Utah got what it deserved.
Zero people in this thread have called Boise a powderpuff. Just that they play 10 cupcakes a year and shouldnt be given a National title bid by winning two good games.
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except he's rigt because Cincy blows this year. why does what they did last year matter? that's so irrelevant.
I mean they only lost their best QB, WR and head coach...
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If everybody feels Boise is gonna get blown out, why not give them a chance to prove their worth? Powderpuff schedule or not, Boise deserves just as much of a chance as anybody else. I don't give a damn about conference schedule, if you are undefeated, you are undefeated.
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If everybody feels Boise is gonna get blown out, why not give them a chance to prove their worth? Powderpuff schedule or not, Boise deserves just as much of a chance as anybody else. I don't give a damn about conference schedule, if you are undefeated, you are undefeated.
It's not fair though to other teams. Even if another team has a loss or two just blindly comparing resume's if a team has 5 or 6 wins against top 25 teams shouldn't that be more impressive than a team with 2 wins over top 25 teams? You can't just ignore strength of schedule. Boise plays an easy schedule, that's a fact fair or not. It's not fair to teams who face ranked teams every week. Say Miami even loses 2 games. Is it fair for a team like Boise who only has 2 quality wins make it over a team like Miami who has wins say over Ohio State, Pitt, and Virginia tech?
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It's not fair though to other teams. Even if another team has a loss or two just blindly comparing resume's if a team has 5 or 6 wins against top 25 teams shouldn't that be more impressive than a team with 2 wins over top 25 teams? You can't just ignore strength of schedule. Boise plays an easy schedule, that's a fact fair or not. It's not fair to teams who face ranked teams every week. Say Miami even loses 2 games. Is it fair for a team like Boise who only has 2 quality wins make it over a team like Miami who has wins say over Ohio State, Pitt, and Virginia tech?
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If they are going to schedule powderpuffs like Wyoming, why not schedule a so called powderpuff like Boise?
Multiple BCS conference teams have scheduled Boise in recent years. It's not the obligation of every school in the country to get on their knees and beg Boise to play them. Unless you can show some evidence, I don't see anything to back up the assumption that teams have turned Boise down out of fear.
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I do feel like Tech was SLIGHTLY overrated, I will give them like 12th or something.. a little bit of both though. (Boise was impressive)

Boise had a veteran unit on both sides of the ball for the most part, or at least compared to Tech. Tyrod did alot for that team last night with his legs, and the Hokies O-line got smashed pretty much the entire game. Why couldn't the Hokies schedule that game in Blacksburg though? Boise declined because.. anyway after last night Tech is something like 0-22 away from home against AP top 5 teams. For the past 3 or 4 years Tech has played poor early in the season, losing to ECU, getting blown by LSU and then only losing by 10 to the national champs in the Georgia Dome last year. I honestly think our backups could give Tech a run for there money with what they lost last year on the defensive side of the ball.
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I can't believe someone made the comparison of Boise playing VT at FedEx to Texas playing UCLA in Texas. UCLA got their ass whooped by Kansas State and UCLA was 3-6 in the Pac-10 last year, with wins against Washington State, Washington, and Arizona State (Win against UW was BS). None of those 3 teams went to a bowl game. UCLA is a bottom 5 pac-10 team who's offensive line resembles a Ty Willingham line.
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I think the thing with Boise State is that since they only play like 2 credible teams a year, they have to absolutely dominate those games if they want a shot at making the BCS Title game over BCS conference teams who are just as deserving. Now if Boise goes unbeaten and we have another situation like in 2007 where a 2 loss LSU team made it as the #2 team in the BCS, then give Boise a shot. But I don't think they looked like a national title team necessarily last night. They could be that good but I think beating down Va Tech was required for them to get in over a 1 loss big boy team or another undefeated BCS conference team. The BCS is a beauty pageant afterall
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I agree with this. Let's keep in mind despite the present rankings, that were foolishly brought up by the broadcast crew, Boise will have to go undefeated and about 8 or 9 other teams are going to have to have a loss for the Broncos to get in a title game.
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As long as Boise doesn't get in over a 1 loss Texas, Bama, Ohio State, or any other school from those conferences I won't have a problem. If you lose 2 you've lost my sympathy even with the stronger schedule.
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If everybody feels Boise is gonna get blown out, why not give them a chance to prove their worth? Powderpuff schedule or not, Boise deserves just as much of a chance as anybody else. I don't give a damn about conference schedule, if you are undefeated, you are undefeated.
So you really think Boise deserves a shot if they go undefeated and say Bama is 13-0 but Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Ohio State, Iowa, or Wisconsin are 11-1 or 12-1?

Thats just garbage.
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I think the thing with Boise State is that since they only play like 2 credible teams a year, they have to absolutely dominate those games if they want a shot at making the BCS Title game over BCS conference teams who are just as deserving. Now if Boise goes unbeaten and we have another situation like in 2007 where a 2 loss LSU team made it as the #2 team in the BCS, then give Boise a shot. But I don't think they looked like a national title team necessarily last night. They could be that good but I think beating down Va Tech was required for them to get in over a 1 loss big boy team or another undefeated BCS conference team. The BCS is a beauty pageant afterall
What statements did Texas make last year against top competition to say they deserved a shot at the championship? Barely got by a Sam Bradford-less Oklahoma and a blown call to get past Nebraska in the Big XII title game. They are 5-1(maybe 4-1) against AP top 10 teams.
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What statements did Texas make last year against top competition to say they deserved a shot at the championship? Barely got by a Sam Bradford-less Oklahoma and a blown call to get past Nebraska in the Big XII title game. They are 5-1(maybe 4-1) against AP top 10 teams.
If you think you can make a claim that Boise's season this year will be as impressive as Texas' last year you are out of you mind.

Texas played 4 teams that were top 25, 2 at neutral sites and 1 on the road. They blew out #13 OkSt. on the road.

Not to mention, they dominated Big 12 teams almost every week. Those teams Texas' dominated are far superior to the ones Boise will this year.

4-1 is the record vs. top 10 and as impressive as that is, its over like 10 seasons. If that was their record vs say, ranked teams this season, I'd be all for saying they had earned a title shot.
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Plus, it's not just the matchups vs. the ranked teams. Teams in BCS conferences often trip up against solid but not great teams. Iowa's perfect season was ended by Northwestern, but Iowa ended up pillaging Georgia Tech in the Orange Bowl. There's no depth to challenge Boise in their ******** conference.
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Jacksonville State > Ole Miss but ZOMG its teh SEC best conference in the world
Utah > Pitt big east favorite
TCU > Oregon Pac 10 favorite
Boise State > ACC favorite

These schools know how to ball.
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Jacksonville State > Ole Miss but ZOMG its teh SEC best conference in the world
Utah > Pitt big east favorite
TCU > Oregon Pac 10 favorite
Boise State > ACC favorite

These schools know how to ball.
i agree with the sentiment although its oregon state, not oregon. Oregon lit new mexico up 72-0 or something
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