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Old 08-27-2010, 01:57 PM    (permalink
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As far as I am concerned Leinart didn't go to waste, he was waste.
There has to be some degree of truth to it though. Leinart looked pretty decent under Dennis Green.

I'm not saying he'd be a great qb in a different scheme, but i also feel that Whisenhunt's spread system is the worst possible scheme for him to be in.
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I don't think Whisenhunt has or ever will be high on Leinart, he is just not "his" guy.
Truth, may be best for him to move on.
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If they where smart, the would have packaged Lienart with Boldin and gotten a solid QB instead of trading him to the Ravens.
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If they where smart, the would have packaged Lienart with Boldin and gotten a solid QB instead of trading him to the Ravens.
That would have been smart but I guess at the time they still had confidence in Leinart to get it done.
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Matt Leinart's reaction just shows me why he was such a bust. What a *****.
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What if he would have came out early from college? It could have been even worse on he field at least.
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On those 49ers teams?! That would have been something.
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Yeah but he would of at least gotten the extra 15 million guaranteed that went to Alex Smith instead.
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Derek Anderson has looked 1000x worser than Matt Leinart, Whisenhunt hates Matt or is on drugs
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Derek Anderson has a chance when Larry Fitzgerald is healthy. Other than that it's gonna be hard for him to compete.
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Anderson has looked ALOT worse than Leinart. If I remember correctly, Whisenhunt had problems with Big Ben.. I think he just prefers vets to run his system.

One thing for sure is, Leinart needs a chance. This is the preseason, and he has 13 pass attemtps. You have to give this guy a season, just to see what he can do. Let the guy get into a groove. Untill now we have only seen him coming in sparingly and he never gets consistants action on the field.

The guy has talent, and I think can be a starter. The Bears game a few years ago sticks out as to what he is capabale of.
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There has to be some degree of truth to it though. Leinart looked pretty decent under Dennis Green.

I'm not saying he'd be a great qb in a different scheme, but i also feel that Whisenhunt's spread system is the worst possible scheme for him to be in.
what spread system?

And Whis loves ******* with people's heads, Leinart will start the final game and the regular season unless Anderson somehow doesn't suck anymore
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Whisenhunt can't even give a fake vote of confidence.

Damn dude, just go with Leinart and stand by it firmly until he uber fails. Jerking him around is bad for everyone. It's like he wants him to fail.
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As far as I am concerned Leinart didn't go to waste, he was waste.
Exactly, there isn't one single excuse you can use for him. He's been in the league 5 years now, and he had a HOF QB to sit behind and learn the ropes. Funny to think how Norm Chow wanted Leinart so bad, and now look. VY may never be an elite QB, but he has consistently shown growth and constantly gotten better, Leinart hasn't shown an ounce of potential to be a good QB.
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Leinart can't throw more than 5 yards without screwing it up. While Anderson is terrible, at least he can get the ball past the sticks on occasions. You can't win with Leinart in that system.
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I dont think this is really anything. It'll probably be the last game but in reverse order.

Plus, if you're not going to win with other qbs, why not just go with leinart the whole season and let him suck without the leash. Derek Anderson aint getting you to the playoffs.
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Let's not act like Matt can't play in this league. He hasn't been good this pre-season, but i'd roll with him instead of DA...that's for true.
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Derek Anderson is, and always has been, an absolute turnover machine.

He had one great half season in Cleveland, but once teams had a little film on him and started to figure him out he looked like a complete bum. He's been fortunate to have had two Captain Checkdown's in front of him on the depth chart in both Brayden and Leinart. Neither have been able to move their offenses up the field or make the big play but haven't turned the ball over either, whereas DA can make all of the throws.

I'd like to see Leinart get his shot, because when he wants to the guy can flat out ball.
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Leinart really should give Tom Brady or Drew Bress a call and figure out how they managed to up their arm strength by a few dozen rpms.

If Leinart had busted his ass in the offseason since his rookie year and really improved his upper body strength, he wouldn't be reluctant to let it rip 25 yards downfield.

Even Mike Vick attributes the huge jump in arm strength he had between his senior year of HS and his redshirt frosh year at Va Tech was total participation in the Hokies strength and conditioning program.

I hope the Cards cut him, Kyle Shanahan could do big things with Matt in D.C.
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I think Matt's issues aren't physical to be honest. Matt just isn't that confident and smart player he was. He's timid and lethargic now. He was a leader, now he's a whiner.

His arm isn't a cannon, but it's definitely good enough.
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Tom stopped throwing off his back foot so much.
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I'd like to see Leinart get his shot, because when he wants to the guy can flat out ball.
Lol wut?


When did this ever happen, maybe I just missed something.
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well cardinals fans, get ready for season from hell if derek anderson is even competing to start.
its not like leinart would be any better
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