Second year QB?

[smittyjs]

Originally Posted by remix 6

VY lost weapons..Bennett..Henry. i cant see a lot of success as much as a sophomore slump

im gonna say Leinart
hes got arguably the best duo at WR..hes got Pope at TE..James at RB, new coach and should be improved OL

i see Cardinals heading in right direction which includes Leinart having a good year

Bennett wasn't much of a lost, if Brandon jones can step up like the coaches are thinkin then i can only see young struggling for a few games, but injuries could kill the connection. I'm worried about henry, but i think Young will elp White and the rest of the running game like he did with Henry last season.

[OzTitan]

Originally Posted by njx9

he should be a WR.

How on earth a troll became a mod here is still beyond me.

[niel89]

Originally Posted by OzTitan

How on earth a troll became a mod here is still beyond me.

im fairly sure that was a joke

[njx9]

Originally Posted by OzTitan

How on earth a troll became a mod here is still beyond me.

speaking of massive homer who can't take a joke when it involves a titans player. if that wasn't already such a pathetic response to a clear and obvious joke, i would go further, but you already made yourself look stupider than i ever could. congrats.

[niel89]

Originally Posted by njx9

speaking of massive homer who can't take a joke when it involves a titans player. if that wasn't already such a pathetic response to a clear and obvious joke, i would go further, but you already made yourself look stupider than i ever could. congrats.

i know VY would be a much better running back than a WR

[njx9]

Originally Posted by niel89

i know VY would be a much better running back than a WR

i really thought he should've been a safety. i mean, he's quick enough to play most tight ends, but his hieght would be a major advantage... although, realistically, he'd probably need at least 5-6 years to learn the position first.

[BlindSite]

Matt Leinart. Easily. IMO he's going to be a tom brady figure in 3 years. He'll take Arizona to a superbowl over the next 5 years and come away with a ring.

[TheChampIsHere]

Im predicting Vince to go through a little bit of a sophmore slump as DCs devise ways to take his legs away from him and its gonna be hard to do what he did last year again...And the Titans didnt do much to improve the talent level of the team this offseason, this is a team with a lot of holes.

So I think its Cutler or Leinart, who I both expect to have good years. Theyre both in very good situations and are promising young players.

[TheChampIsHere]

Originally Posted by njx9

speaking of massive homer who can't take a joke when it involves a titans player. if that wasn't already such a pathetic response to a clear and obvious joke, i would go further, but you already made yourself look stupider than i ever could. congrats.

ahhh.....first post Ive noticed from you anywhere in a little while....and what do ya know? Insulting people, acting like youre smarter than everyone else....etc etc

And what was it you said, something about you only insult people who are stupid? And all this coming from a guy who is claiming that the guy who won the OROY and 2 rose bowls playing QB should be playing WR or S....And HES the dumb one.

[wogitalia]

Originally Posted by Yung Flippa

Tavaris Jackson, If Minnesota Gets Him Some Help

We dont have enough draft picks to get him the kind of help he needs. We refuse to sign FA's and as it stands we currently have a very good LG and C, a good LT and an average RB. We dont have a WR who should be higher than 3rd in a depth chart and our starting TE going into the season is a complete unknown.

I vote Leinart, he looked really good as the season went on and has by far the best receiving corp of those listed.

Cutler is an obvious second option.

Brodie Croyle is the surprise option, depends on what happens with Green, but if Croyle ends up starting, he has some weapons out there are a line that whilst not as good as a few years ago is still solid.

[Ewing]

Originally Posted by njx9

he should be a WR.

Who did you blackmail to get mod? Seriously, I wanna know. I kid, I kid.

Anyway, I'd go with Cutler due to have the best line and overall team. However, people are acting like Henry and Bennett are incredible players who can't be replaced. They're both vastly average and White can replace Henry while whoever the Titans pick in round one can replace Bennett.

[eacantdraft]

Jey Cutler. He is in the best organization of any of these QB's.

Leinart has to learn a new system and still has a bad offensive line and a bad defense.

Young has lost some of his supporting cast

[OzTitan]

Originally Posted by njx9

speaking of massive homer who can't take a joke when it involves a titans player. if that wasn't already such a pathetic response to a clear and obvious joke, i would go further, but you already made yourself look stupider than i ever could. congrats.

Clear and obvious? rofl. If you're joking on the net, at least use a smiley. A would have been a good one. Heck, maybe even something a little more obvious like "Oh no, remember, VY can't play QB, he should be a WR". You know, to emphasize the sarcasm. Unfortunately, we can't detect sarcasm in plain text.

I'd say the sole stupidity here lies in the failure to utilize the English language well enough to portray obvious sarcasm. I don't have the time to wade through every post of yours to form a nack of when you're deploying sarcasm or not, particularly when half are arguments.

And I'd like you to please find for me one example of myself being a "massive homer". Resulting to homer calling at the first sign of an argument is about the lowest form of intelligence the forum experience can offer, right after massive homers themselves. Me thinking you referred to VY as a WR with a one line, non explanatory post is not being a homer, as that is the very definition of an Internet troll - posting something usually with little thought behind it looking for a reaction.

[rchrd]

Originally Posted by njx9

i hope all 6 tarvaris jackson votes were from vikings homers. otherwise, someone may need their head checked.

I'd be surprised if 3 of them were Viking homers. I'm one of the biggest and even managed to keep it in my pants to vote Cutler. I'm just hoping he (Jackson) doesn't get killed out there. That'd be a plus.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

Originally Posted by njx9

i really thought he should've been a safety. i mean, he's quick enough to play most tight ends, but his hieght would be a major advantage... although, realistically, he'd probably need at least 5-6 years to learn the position first.

Pfffffft. He sucks so much he should be the waterboy. Wait, that's too much, third string waterboy.

[draftguru151]

Originally Posted by CutlerChris

Pfffffft. He sucks so much he should be the waterboy. Wait, that's too much, third string waterboy.

3rd string CFL water boy.

[niel89]

Originally Posted by draftguru151

3rd string CFL water boy.

pshh practice squad cfl water boy

[Bengals1690]

Leinart has help around him unlike any other 2nd year QB. Now if the questionable O line of the Cards holds up, he should have a monster year.

[KWill93]

Leinart
Cutler

[etk]

Originally Posted by njx9

i really thought he should've been a safety. i mean, he's quick enough to play most tight ends, but his hieght would be a major advantage... although, realistically, he'd probably need at least 5-6 years to learn the position first.

I could see Vince Young as a poor man's Pat Watkins if he was given 8 years to develop at FS.

Seriously he would be a good WR on a HB pass Matt Saracen style.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by TheChampIsHere

ahhh.....first post Ive noticed from you anywhere in a little while....and what do ya know? Insulting people, acting like youre smarter than everyone else....etc etc

And what was it you said, something about you only insult people who are stupid? And all this coming from a guy who is claiming that the guy who won the OROY and 2 rose bowls playing QB should be playing WR or S....And HES the dumb one.

jesus christ. it was sarcasm you bloody idiot. i even said so in the post you quoted.

in fact, if you had any flaming idea what you're talking about, it would've been clear that, last year at about this time, there were debates on this bloody board about whether vince should go in the top five, and how long it would take him to become a decent quarterback. some folks, who pretty much everyone else on this board wrote off, argued that he was a WR at best (some in comparison to the vick debates, but that's a different story you still wouldn't fathom). on the other hand, you're clearly going to be one of those users who follows me from thread to thread to "call me out" on things that i say. you might try, you know, reading the bloody post you're going to quote in the future to prevent yourself from looking like a 12 year old with a vendetta. get a life.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by OzTitan

Clear and obvious? rofl. If you're joking on the net, at least use a smiley. A would have been a good one. Heck, maybe even something a little more obvious like "Oh no, remember, VY can't play QB, he should be a WR". You know, to emphasize the sarcasm. Unfortunately, we can't detect sarcasm in plain text.

and yet everyone else who's responded has figured it out. amazing how no one can detect sarcasm. :roll: (better?)

I'd say the sole stupidity here lies in the failure to utilize the English language well enough to portray obvious sarcasm. I don't have the time to wade through every post of yours to form a nack of when you're deploying sarcasm or not, particularly when half are arguments.

no, the sole stupidity lies in thef act that you thought it was ok to immediately jump to a personal attack without having any vague idea what was going on in the thread. but hey, i'm glad you called me out for being a troll. brilliant reply, even had i been serious. (also, while we're discussing the english language, it's knack, and people don't really "deploy" sarcasm although that's a lexical argument more than anything).

And I'd like you to please find for me one example of myself being a "massive homer". Resulting to homer calling at the first sign of an argument is about the lowest form of intelligence the forum experience can offer, right after massive homers themselves. Me thinking you referred to VY as a WR with a one line, non explanatory post is not being a homer, as that is the very definition of an Internet troll - posting something usually with little thought behind it looking for a reaction.

*yawn* immediately jumping on anyone who attacks any of your favorite players with an immediate knee-jerk reaction is fairly homerific, regardless of how weakly you'd like to defend it with "see? i just did what you did, so my comment isn't anywhere near as classless as yours".

Originally Posted by njx9

(also, while we're discussing the english language, it's knack, and people don't really "deploy" sarcasm although that's a lexical argument more than anything).

How about I deploy my foot in your ass?!

[OzTitan]

Originally Posted by njx9

and yet everyone else who's responded has figured it out. amazing how no one can detect sarcasm. :roll: (better?)

Everyone else who responded? I was the first person to respond to it. Nice logic there. And just because people didn't respond to it before me doesn't mean everyone assumed it wasn't sincere. Half probably couldn't care less either way, and the other half probably have you on ignore (either manual or automatic).

Originally Posted by njx9

no, the sole stupidity lies in thef act that you thought it was ok to immediately jump to a personal attack without having any vague idea what was going on in the thread. but hey, i'm glad you called me out for being a troll. brilliant reply, even had i been serious. (also, while we're discussing the english language, it's knack, and people don't really "deploy" sarcasm although that's a lexical argument more than anything).

It wasn't a personal attack, it was justified if it was a sincere post. That would have been a textbook example of a troll post - quick, stupid and aimed at getting a reaction. The fact it was not clearly obvious an attempt at sarcasm places the blame squarely on you. I don't know you personally, how the flying 747 f*ck am I meant to know when you're being sarcastic or not when you're using a completely non-emotional medium like text? You have to accompany sarcasm with something on the net', it's simply common knowledge.

And you've got to be kidding me - pointing out I missed a "k" in knack? That paragraph of yours above itself is absolutely riddled with uncapitalized words, not to mention an "f" in the word "the". Rofl. Oh and "deploying" sarcasm is perfectly fine - sarcasm is a tool of language and you deployed it in your response.

So basically so far we have homer calling and trying to bring it down to English lessons - what's next, are you going to say your dad can beat up mine?

Originally Posted by njx9

*yawn* immediately jumping on anyone who attacks any of your favorite players with an immediate knee-jerk reaction is fairly homerific, regardless of how weakly you'd like to defend it with "see? i just did what you did, so my comment isn't anywhere near as classless as yours".

The thing is, I DON'T jump on anyone who "attacks" any of my favorite players. I don't care if people want to criticize VY and post why they don't like him, but I'll occasionally bite on troll bait with some bait of my own. If you were sincere and had posted a detailed reason as to why you think VY is a WR, I may have still replied, but with an equally detailed response.

Trust me, there are still people who sincerely think VY should have been a WR. How do you expect me to know you're not one of them? Because you think the idea is so outlandish it has to be sarcasm? Because you think somehow I should magically know you were being sarcastic?

Instead of being an aggressive argumentative douche bringing out the homer card and further agitating the situation, you could have simply explained it was sarcasm and I would have apologized. I'd have every right to respond in such a way to a post like that if it was sincere - that doesn't make me a homer, it would be a flat out troll attempt and I'd expect any fan to respond similarly. Take one of your favorites and tell me you wouldn't fire back if someone posted something similar and meant it.

In any case, what I originally said wasn't even a personal attack if you were being sarcastic anyway - the attack was for being a troll, which was well justified if you were sincere, but since you weren't, it's totally moot. The troll tag was completely dependent on you being serious and since you knew you weren't, I don't see how you'd take offense. You knew it was sarcasm, and you knew I thought it was real - I wouldn't have called you a troll otherwise. All you had to do was point out it was sarcasm and my response would have been irrelevant, but no, you couldn't do that without a conflict; a "knee jerk" reaction of your own.

Perhaps I should have made room for the potential of sarcasm despite the fact in this day and age I would have presumed people realized you *have* to be painfully obvious on the net when using it, but there was still absolutely no reason for you to find offense at being called a troll when you weren't being serious, it's pretty clear by this and the amount of arguments you are involved in around here you're looking for it.

[niel89]

i thought it was obvious sarcasm

im serious about the practice cfl waterboy....................(sarcasm)