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Old 09-05-2010, 03:44 PM    (permalink
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Did Gholston gain thirty pounds while I wasn't looking? The guy was a prototype 3-4 OLB/4-3 RE, or used to be.
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Did Gholston gain thirty pounds while I wasn't looking? The guy was a prototype 3-4 OLB/4-3 RE, or used to be.
Nope. He was just SO BAD at OLB that he managed to be better at DE. His strength is serviceable at the position but his size would likely be an issue at some point. We shall see.
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The thing about Greg Hardy is that he realistically had one year where he couldn't get healthy and you can say that about most players by the time they hit the NFL, some injury history, it's the game.

The biggest knock on him coming out was an apparent lack of motivation, failure to show up to meetings, not giving 100% whatever.

Hardy said after he was drafted that he did try, tried 100% of the time but just wasn't healthy enough to be productive or always get on the field. He is healthy and according to Beason and to everyone from fans to media who've seen him practice and play he gives his all on every single play and if he's doing that with the starters against the Titans, at DT, DE and every where and abusing people I think he's going places.

I don't expect him to start, but by next season I could see him being the starting LDE or RDE and being a massive force for Carolina. I wasn't a fan of the pick, at all. Now I am.

As for Gholston, he's absolutely a bust, of the highest caliber guys from the same draft class from the 7th round have more sacks, even Hilee Taylor who's missed most of his NFL career with injuries has 1 sack, Trevor Scott in Oakland who was a 7th rounder has 12.

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7. Plenty is riding on Vernon Gholston's first sack. The Jets' defensive end, New York's 2008 first-round pick, keeps getting closer and closer to the first sack of his NFL career. According to NFL Players Association documents, Gholston needs only one sack to trigger a $9.1 million roster bonus that the Jets would have the option to pick up next March. Gholston also could activate the $9.1 million bonus with 20 percent play time this season or one fumble recovery. If the Jets declined to pick it up, Gholston then would become an unrestricted free agent. This is an escalator that the Jets worked into Gholston's contract last offseason, when the two sides agreed to restructure his deal. So one sack, one fumble recovery, one interception or 20 percent play time could mean a big payday -- or it could punch Gholston's ticket out of New York.
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Lol at so much money hinging on so little. They are crazy if they pick up that option but it's not very likely.
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Give him to me on the Titan's, let Washburn give it a go.
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It's just incredible that he has no career sacks. You'd think that in three friggin' seasons, just once an O-lineman would slip and fall or blow his assignment to give up one measly garbage sack.

Gholston needs to find a QB who makes no money and offer him a million dollars to run right up to him and get sacked so he can trigger that 9 million.
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It's just incredible that he has no career sacks. You'd think that in three friggin' seasons, just once an O-lineman would slip and fall or blow his assignment to give up one measly garbage sack.

Gholston needs to find a QB who makes no money and offer him a million dollars to run right up to him and get sacked so he can trigger that 9 million.
He once sacked a quarterback in the preseason.







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I just heard he needs 1 sack to trigger a 9.1 million dollar bonus.

He had 3 years as a pass rusher to get 1 sack...lol.
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Lol it means nothing, it just means that it triggers the option for the Jets to pick up the roster bonus. Which they'd be incredibly ******** to pick up.
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do the jets have to pay him if he picks up his end of the deal? because if he is one sack away from stealing 9M from the Jets, they would be stupid to not just sit him on the bench
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You do the math...he doesn't start in year 3 and was the 6th pick in '08. Jets fans probably love him though.
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He'd be fine if he just got a chance to play in a 4-3.
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do the jets have to pay him if he picks up his end of the deal? because if he is one sack away from stealing 9M from the Jets, they would be stupid to not just sit him on the bench
They'd still have to pick up the option. Basically they put in that incentive to try to motivate him and now they can let him walk with less financial ramifications then if he were to play out his full 5 year rookie contract.
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It's kind of funny that in three years he has zero sacks. Not even one in Ryans Blitz heavy defense. Pretty big bust. I remember after watching his combine wanting the Pats to go for him, man so glad we got Mayo.
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Its because he's so bad in open space that its actually comical.

I'm kind of glad that the Patriots got Mayo too, although that was because I thought they were going to draft Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and that thought terrifies me.
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Its because he's so bad in open space that its actually comical.

I'm kind of glad that the Patriots got Mayo too, although that was because I thought they were going to draft Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and that thought terrifies me.
he's good in madden dude youre an idiot for not wanting him
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He's good, but he's no Manny Lawson.
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Don't the Jets have to pick up his option for that 9.1 to kick in? Not sure if I'm reading it right, would think they would just say "No Thanks."

And Schefter is crazy if he thinks Kellen Moore is a 3rd-4th round pick.
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I think he still needs to be given a go in a 4-3 just to see if he can still bull rush the OT
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