2010 NFL MVP, who will win it this season? - Page 2

Splat · 09-02-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

It is the supporting cast argument. Peyton Manning didn't deserve it last year over Drew Brees or Brett Favre, but he won it based on the perception that his supporting cast wasn't as good as it has been in the past. The Patriots struggling on defense will feed into how "valuable" Brady is.

Not saying it is legitimate, but that is how these voters see things. That's why a RB will not win the MVP, barring an LT 31 touchdown season on a 14-2 team.

I was referring to you saying that NE is going to make a strong SB run, I think their D is going to hold them back.

P-L · 09-02-2010, 01:01 PM

If Tom Brady improves over last season, an extra year removed from knee surgery, their defensive performance might not matter.

prock · 09-02-2010, 01:05 PM

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Ooooh, nice darkhorse pick. I like. I don't think he'll get the opportunity to toss the rock around as much as he did last year, but if they win the division and he's got numbers close to what he had last year, I think it's definitely a possibility.

Yeah, it was just me trying to be unique haha. In all honesty, it will probably one of the top 5 QBs: Rivers, Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, or Brees. But I think Eli Manning is a legitimate sleeper. If he wins, I will rock that in my sig for eternity.

ThePudge · 09-02-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by P-L

Peyton Manning will win it even though there will be two or three more deserving candidates. Oh wait, this is 2010 not 2009...

Yea, because when Manning threw 33 Tds, 4500 yds, & won 14 games a year ago he should have probably lost to a guy who threw 34, 4388 yds, & won 13. Clearly the second guy was more deserving there. New Orleans' rushing offense ranked 6th, Indianapolis was dead last by a good margin. Indy's entire offense was Peyton Manning. When evaluating the MOST VALUABLE player, there's little doubt in my mind. Chris Johnson also did incredible things, but he did it for an average team, making him a prime candidate for Offensive Player of the Year, but not necessarily a top-flight MVP candidate.

A lot of people just hate on Peyton just to hate on Peyton.

bigbluedefense · 09-02-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CC.SD

I wouldn't change that lineup unless the buzz on McCluster gets white hot and you're in a PPR league. The path is surprisingly clear for Spiller, someone has to get the carries.

Especially to start the season I would go with Smith and Floyd over Berrian, so with Rice out, Massoquoi not having a QB, and the rest being rookies/in an offense that ignores them, you're set.

Yeah this is a 14 team PPR league. I'm hoping my starting lineup is solid. My questionmarks are Matt Ryan, CJ Spiller, and Malcolm Floyd. If all 3 show up, I think my team is loaded.

I'm hoping McCluster is a sleeper. I took him late. Rice was the last round of the draft, I was like hell, why not. Im putting him on the IR spot and grabbing someone off the waiver wire.

I don't like my bench all that much though.

CC.SD · 09-02-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Yeah this is a 14 team PPR league. I'm hoping my starting lineup is solid. My questionmarks are Matt Ryan, CJ Spiller, and Malcolm Floyd. If all 3 show up, I think my team is loaded.

I'm hoping McCluster is a sleeper. I took him late. Rice was the last round of the draft, I was like hell, why not. Im putting him on the IR spot and grabbing someone off the waiver wire.

I don't like my bench all that much though.

G-reg will get traded to a better offense.

Prowler · 09-02-2010, 01:38 PM

Matt Schaub, his offense will roll all year and he'll have the rating and numbers. If his team makes the playoffs then he'll have some pretty good momentum too.

Mr.Regular · 09-02-2010, 01:41 PM

Shiver · 09-02-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat

I was referring to you saying that NE is going to make a strong SB run, I think their D is going to hold them back.

That wasn't me. I think their defense is a big "if" that could derail their Super Bowl aspirations.

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Originally Posted by P-L

If Tom Brady improves over last season, an extra year removed from knee surgery, their defensive performance might not matter.

Exactly what I think. There are about five offenses in the league that can keep up with them, at best. And the Colts, Texans, Packers, Chargers, and Saints have their own defensive issues to worry about.

Shane P. Hallam · 09-02-2010, 01:52 PM

Aaron Rodgers or Tony Romo.

RagingColt · 09-02-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito

Not sure what is more disturbing, Tom Brady posing for a GQ-like picture or the Pee-Week Herman tat.

For the sake of the thread, I went with Rogers. If he plays like the way he did in blasting the Colts D in the pre season, it won't be a contest. He's got multiple pro-bowl level weapons to work with and can make a few plays with his feet.

M.O.T.H. · 09-02-2010, 03:07 PM

O-Line scaring away potential Romo votes here? I wouldnt blame yah.

But if that line can hold up...Tony's got as good a shot as anyone. I have no confidence in the line right now, though.

San Diego Chicken · 09-02-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by P-L

Peyton Manning will win it even though there will be two or three more deserving candidates. Oh wait, this is 2010 not 2009...

Pretty much this. Manning just seems to win it by default every year now. i see no reason to bet against him again, even if some others might be more impressive statistically.

abaddon41_80 · 09-02-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by P-L

Peyton Manning will win it even though there will be two or three more deserving candidates. Oh wait, this is 2010 not 2009...

You have to be kidding me. I'll give you that Rivers might have deserved it in 2008, it probably should have been a split, but no one was close to as deserving as Manning last year.

San Diego Chicken · 09-02-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

You have to be kidding me. I'll give you that Rivers might have deserved it in 2008, it probably should have been a split, but no one was close to as deserving as Manning last year.

Brees? Favre? Rivers again? Johnson?

Shiver · 09-02-2010, 03:50 PM

Drew Brees, whose team was 13-0, who broke the NFL record for completion percentage, who won the Super Bowl, would disagree.

Brett Favre, at the age of 40, becoming the only player to throw for 33 touchdowns and only 7 interceptions on an elite team would like a word in as well.

tjsunstein · 09-02-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

You have to be kidding me. I'll give you that Rivers might have deserved it in 2008, it probably should have been a split, but no one was close to as deserving as Manning last year.

Brett Favre
Chris Johnson
Drews Brees

Shiver · 09-02-2010, 03:54 PM

"No one was close to as deserving" hahahahaha. This guy takes homerism to an art-form.

abaddon41_80 · 09-02-2010, 03:55 PM

Favre and Brees both had top 10 rushing attacks backing them up, Manning had the worst in the league. Rivers had an argument again but the Colts did finish with the better record.

abaddon41_80 · 09-02-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

"No one was close to as deserving" hahahahaha. This guy takes homerism to an art-form.

I'm a 49er fan

Jvig43 · 09-02-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

You have to be kidding me. I'll give you that Rivers might have deserved it in 2008, it probably should have been a split, but no one was close to as deserving as Manning last year.

Besides what other have said about Farve, and Brees, Johnson RUSHED FOR 2000 YARDS! How many Rbs have run for that and how many Qbs have thrown 4000?

Shiver · 09-02-2010, 03:59 PM

Then I don't know what the **** your obsession with Manning is about. Are you a Vols fan? Just like his commercials? Is he your star Dynasty league player?

TitanHope · 09-02-2010, 04:00 PM

I've been thinking it'll be Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers, but I think story lines are almost as important as individual success in these things (Except for Manning, who wins in no matter the circumstances apparently). But I think writers will be fapping if Rodgers beats Favre this season and wins the division. That'll carry him to the award. If he loses, then my odds are for Brees.

Just kidding! It'll be Peyton! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Jvig43 · 09-02-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

Then I don't know what the **** your obsession with Manning is about. Are you a Vols fan? Just like his commercials? Is he your star Dynasty league player?

Hes one of the kids all grown up now from this:

Shiver · 09-02-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jvig43

Hes one of the kids all grown up now from this:

There you go.