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Default P.Manning vs M.Vick vs J.Elway..Most talented Prospect

I know we had a discussion last week with Vick vs Palmer and Micheal Vick pretty much won in a landslide but now I'm looking to raise the bar. Now, you know the rules, careers cannot be taken into account because that would take oout all of the fun. This is from a pure prospect perspective. All three players were taken #1 in their respective drafts. Elway 1983, Manning in 1998 and Vick in 2001. If your are a GM which QB do you take #1 overall? Remember careers are not taken into account.
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Elway. Mixture of the other two. Although 99% of this board was not following the draft in 83. Including me.
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Elway. Look at the QBs that went after him in that draft. Those were all highly touted guys (not guys that were OK prospects and just churned out good careers), and Elway dwarfed them all as a prospect. He had everything going for him.
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Vick, then Elway, then Manning.

Vick was a dominant college player even at a young age, and had as much(or more?) throwing potential as either guy, but Elway really isn't that close in terms of running ability, contrary to what people seem to think right now.
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I hate that horse toothed mother ******, but John Elway is the gold standard as a prospect
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Vick, then Elway, then Manning.

Vick was a dominant college player even at a young age, and had as much(or more?) throwing potential as either guy, but Elway really isn't that close in terms of running ability, contrary to what people seem to think right now.
Elway was a functional runner as a throw-first QB.

But compared to Vick? Not even close.

Vick was a transcendant prospect, but Elway was the elite of the elite.

Manning trails here because there were and still are questions about his ability to play tough in big games.
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Vick, then Elway, then Manning.

Vick was a dominant college player even at a young age, and had as much(or more?) throwing potential as either guy, but Elway really isn't that close in terms of running ability, contrary to what people seem to think right now.
Of course it isn't close in running ability, Cunningham wasn't close to Vicks running ability. Lots of RBs and WRs don't have Vicks running ability.
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Of course it isn't close in running ability, Cunningham wasn't close to Vicks running ability. Lots of RBs and WRs don't have Vicks running ability.
Evidently, you've never seen Cunningham play
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Evidently, you've never seen Cunningham play
Yeah, I have but it still wasn't close. Have you forgotten what Vick could do with the football in his hands?? I think his Eagles yrs are blocking your memory.
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I understand your sentiment, but his statement is correct. And that's not a slight towards Cunningham at all... Just exactly how good Vick was/is.



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Yeah, I have but it still wasn't close. Have you forgotten what Vick could do with the football in his hands?? I think his Eagles yrs are blocking your memory.
Buddy Ryan's offense was predicated almost entirely on Cunningham's legs.

He had 942 yards in a season and almost 5,000 yards and 35 TDs in his career as a runner.

I don't see how it wasn't close.

Is Vick better in that department? Sure. But not close? I don't see it.
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Buddy Ryan's offense was predicated almost entirely on Cunningham's legs.

He had 942 yards in a season and almost 5,000 yards and 35 TDs in his career as a runner.

I don't see how it wasn't close.

Is Vick better in that department? Sure. But not close? I don't see it.
You kinda made the point for us. Randall Cunningham could throw for almost 5,000 yards... Teams couldn't gameplan for him to run the ball because he was so good in the passing department.

Cunningham was an amazing runner. There's no doubt about that.

But Vick was way better. Way better.
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You kinda made the point for us. Randall Cunningham could throw for almost 5,000 yards... Teams couldn't gameplan for him to run the ball because he was so good in the passing department.

Cunningham was an amazing runner. There's no doubt about that.

But Vick was way better. Way better.
The 5,000 yards and 35 TDs were his career... he rushed for 4,928 yards and 35 TDs in his career.

The year he ran for 942, he was 10th in the NFL.
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The 5,000 yards and 35 TDs were his career... he rushed for 4,928 yards and 35 TDs in his career.

The year he ran for 942, he was 10th in the NFL.
And Vick almost has 4,000 in 6 seasons with the Falcons with his last season being 1,039 yards. And he missed 11 games one year.

I'm hearing you, but its not close to me. As my first post said, a good bit of RBs and WRs are not able to run like Vick.
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Peyton isnt close to the other two really.

He was polished but had the big game struggles, some questioned his arm a little (only because it was compared to leafs), and mostly people thought he mightve been a finished product or that he was 'self made' still not sure what the hell that means but i remember hearing it.
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I say this is Elway in a landslide.
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Elway for sure, then Vick, then Manning. Manning wasn't even the consensus in his draft, it was like 60/40 him and Leaf.
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most talented prospect? vick.

best prospect? elway.
This.

Vicks speed, arm, and agility package is unheard of, but Elway is the better prospect. Elway had an equal or better arm than Vick and was no slouch of a runner.

If I had the #1 pick I would always take Elway every time. He is as close to a perfect QB prospect as you can get.
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I say this is Elway in a landslide.
Meh. Vick was way faster and could throw the ball just as well. If you're assuming talent means physical ability, there's no world in which Elway could be considered any significant margin ahead of Vick. I personally would say that Vick was clearly more talented.

If we start factoring intelligence in this, the discussion changes a bit.
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Elway. Mixture of the other two. Although 99% of this board was not following the draft in 83. Including me.
Yeah, all I know about Elway in college is that he played for Stanford, I never saw him play in college, just the pros.

From the scouting reports I've read about Elway since then, most scouts up until that time had never seen a prospect like him; the strongest arm many had ever scouted, 6'3, and elite speed at the time for a QB, running a 4.6 forty.

It's really hard to do this without a little bit of their pro careers coming into play.

Based purely on measurables, I think Vick's 4.2 - 4.3 speed would have intrigued me more than either Elway or Peyton.
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Yeah, I have but it still wasn't close. Have you forgotten what Vick could do with the football in his hands?? I think his Eagles yrs are blocking your memory.

And for the young bucks who missed out seeing Cunningham play in his athletic prime in Philly, I feel bad for you cause you really missed out on witnessing the greatest individual show on turf.

IMO Cunningham was overall a more effective dual threat QB than Vick ever was.

There's a reason why Cunningham's nickname was 'the ultimate weapon'.

The separation is mainly that Cunningham was a much more effective passer than Vick, not their running ability.
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most talented prospect? vick.

best prospect? elway.
I second this.

Manning shouldn't even be in this discussion. Talent wise he can't even SMELL either of the other two's jock straps.
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And Vick almost has 4,000 in 6 seasons with the Falcons with his last season being 1,039 yards. And he missed 11 games one year.

I'm hearing you, but its not close to me. As my first post said, a good bit of RBs and WRs are not able to run like Vick.
I think people will like this comparision... Cunningham is more of a Dennis Dixon runner. Quality, but not even close to Vick.
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