Player Value - Page 2

neko4 · 03-19-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 49ersfan_87

Of course he can be worth a first round pick. I never disputed that. I just wouldnt spend it. To be traded for a first round pick, you need production, not potential. Ferguson played well, but he didnt play elite. Thats not a knock on him, i just wouldnt spend a first round pick yet.

Then the Giants are stupid for getting Eli

And Butler 3rd-5th

ny10804 · 03-19-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 49ersfan_87

Of course he can be worth a first round pick. I never disputed that. I just wouldnt spend it. To be traded for a first round pick, you need production, not potential. Ferguson played well, but he didnt play elite. Thats not a knock on him, i just wouldnt spend a first round pick yet.

I agree. I mean, why even have a draft?

49ersfan_87 · 03-19-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ny10804

I agree. I mean, why even have a draft?

I said TRADED for.

49ersfan_87 · 03-19-2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by neko4

Then the Giants are stupid for getting Eli

And Butler 3rd-5th

For what they gave up, yes.

GB12 · 03-19-2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by neko4

ooo was it mine????:)

Nope

mmmmmmm

ny10804 · 03-19-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 49ersfan_87

I said TRADED for.

If you wouldn't trade a 1st rounder for a 2nd year player who's proved to be an above-average player in his rookie season, whom you would otherwise have selected as a 1st rounder, it defeats the purpose of that draft pick and thus the draft.

49ersfan_87 · 03-19-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ny10804

If you wouldn't trade a 1st rounder for a 2nd year player who's proved to be an above-average player in his rookie season, whom you would otherwise have selected as a 1st rounder, it defeats the purpose of that draft pick and thus the draft.

No. I would look at the draft, see what players are available at the position, and see if they had higher ceilings. I trade for production only. Besides, you would have to wonder, why would that team be trading their first round pick away after 1 year? If theyre willing to give up on a first rounder after 1 year, isnt that a major red flag?

MP123 · 03-19-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by regoob2

What about Tommie Harris, he might be tough for us to resign

First round value without a doubt.

ny10804 · 03-19-2007, 10:45 AM

Ray Lewis, 31, MLB, Ravens

princefielder28 · 03-19-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ny10804

Ray Lewis, 31, MLB, Ravens

Late 1st round, not the force he use to be but he's still good

Space Ghost · 03-19-2007, 03:38 PM

Takeo Spikes?

princefielder28 · 03-19-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Space Ghost

Takeo Spikes?

Early Day 2 pick due to his injuries

Space Ghost · 03-19-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

Early Day 2 pick due to his injuries

I was thinking about a 4th round pick probably.

gbpackers0065 · 03-19-2007, 03:57 PM

Tully Banta-Cain?

jetsfan3 · 03-19-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeFan

Oh ok, my bad.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235032
Jeremitrus Butler

A 7th.

ny10804 · 03-19-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gbpackers0065

Tully Banta-Cain?

A late 5th, early 6th.

Peyton: 1st overall pick of the draft and then some.

Donovan McNabb, 30, QB, Eagles

Shiver · 03-19-2007, 05:58 PM

#1 overall

Brian Westbrook...

slightlyaraiderfan · 03-19-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

#1 overall

Brian Westbrook...

Still can't let it go? :)

JF4 · 03-19-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

#1 overall

Brian Westbrook...

Top 5 pick

Micheal Vick...

BUSTKUNTLAWL · 03-19-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JF4

Top 5 pick

Micheal Vick...

Top 5 for Westbrook? WTF?

Not denying his talent. He's a very good back, but hasn't shown to be very durable over his career.. That is absurd.

Vick, honestly early 2nd.. I'm sure a team would give a 1st if they were picking towards the bottom, but around early 2 is about right imo. I would probably be okay with the Bears giving away there 1st for Vick.

Shiver · 03-19-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stillaraiderfan

Still can't let it go? :)

What?

JF4 · 03-19-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BUSTKUNTLAWL

Top 5 for Westbrook? WTF?

Not denying his talent. He's a very good back, but hasn't shown to be very durable over his career.. That is absurd.

Vick, honestly early 2nd.. I'm sure a team would give a 1st if they were picking towards the bottom, but around early 2 is about right imo. I would probably be okay with the Bears giving away there 1st for Vick.

Yea I guess you could question his durabilty but he is such a threat in the passing game and the running game. Plus he's only getting better, correct me if i'm wrong but he had his best year ever last year.

Splat · 03-19-2007, 06:21 PM

Larry Johnson?

bearsfan_51 · 03-19-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by regoob2

What about Tommie Harris, he might be tough for us to resign

Ok....

#1)We're going to resign Tommie Harris. Period. He's the 2nd best player on our team and has two years left on his contract. You know not what you speak of.

#2)He's worth a high 1st. He's one of the best defensive tackles in the league, a premium position, and he's very young.

On a side note as it relates to the rest of the thread, some of you have no ******* idea what you're talking about. I know that I'm a know-it-all, but come on.....

Not to mention that the thread stated to list variables about the player (a very good idea) and not a single person has done that as of yet.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 03-19-2007, 06:57 PM

At this point, if my team needed a LT, I would without a doubt trade my first rounder if I had no shot at Joe Thomas. Maybe even if I did.