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Old 09-20-2010, 11:24 AM    (permalink
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Keep wade for defensive coordinator and hire jon gruden for head-coach/oc
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I would get rid of Jason Garrett...Wade may not be the solution in Dallas but he's certainly not a problem, or their biggest problem, Garrett is.
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I would get rid of Jason Garrett...Wade may not be the solution in Dallas but he's certainly not a problem, or their biggest problem, Garrett is.
They need an entire regime change. Jerry knows it and the only thing keeping his finger off the trigger is the roster they have right now. They have superbowl talent and it was the right decision to keep the system intact to try to get there this year, but they are getting close to the point where they have to start making changes at the coaching level. If Wade doesn't rally his troops and win some games, he'll get fired at the end of the year.
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Oh, I agree that he will probably be fired but I don't think he should be fired...
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The Cowboys as a franchise are molded in the image of Jerry Jones and it is a model that has proven ineffective in the age of the salary cap.
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NO! I like tubby there as their HC. Keep him! In fact, contract extension time! DO it! Do it!
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Call me crazy but I think Wade deserves big kudos for building one of the better 3-4 defenses in the league now. Player for player the Dallas D can stand with anybody, & Ware & Spencer turn in Pro Bowl performances in the pass rush consistently. More attn. in the near future needs to be paid to S & a replacement for Spears at DE though.

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Playcalling & the kicking game are the 2 sore points now, Garrett's gameplan & their epic failures have been discussed to death already so I'll address kicker.

They struck gold with Nick Folk but even he slumped badly after his Pro Bowl rookie yr, the injury sent him packing & now he's trying a comeback in NY, good luck. Someone asked who the kicker now is & that's Buehler, who was apparently a Combine phenom but can't hit anything past 30-35 yds now to save his job, & he has to. He is the obvious turd in the punchbowl now & the main reason Dallas has the worst red zone offense, they fall behind early & can't catch up. 3rd time I've said this here: draft Kai Forbath from UCLA next April, go higher than the 5th rd. if necessary.

Kicker & punter are IMO the most underrated offensive positions in the NFL & you see in Buehler what a disaster can happen if you draft one only b/c he can consistently boom KOs into the EZ & disallow returns. It's not an exact science, finding a kicker who can consistently kick 50+ yarders in game conditions & that includes during late season winters in outdoor stadiums, but you have to cut your losses sometime & ifthey stink up Reliant Stadium in Houston next weekend, 0-3 is time to push the panic button & find another kicker 1st.
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Wade will make some team very happy as a DC but there are too many factors preventing Wade from being a good head coach in Dallas. Mainly Jerry and Garrett. Hell, Wade could be a hell of a coach in Carolina if John Fox is out after the season.
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I think the description of the Cowboys as having an identity crisis fits pretty well. It certainly doesn't seem like Wade should take all the blame but, ultimately, the HC is responsible for the motivation and attitude of his team. As such, the Cowboys mental lapses fall on him and he should be held accountable.
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What was Jason Witten yelling about on the sidelines? Ive seen vid of him doing it, but not what was beign said.
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I believe he was yelling at the medical staff b/c they wouldn't let him back in the game after a headshot.
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I believe he was yelling at the medical staff b/c they wouldn't let him back in the game after a headshot.
He is a SWVA/NETN boy, we don't need helmets.

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I don't think it's time to panic yet. It's been two weeks, they just need to tweak things on offense, get the right personnel groupings out there, and they'll be fine.
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Yes, he should. The Cowboys underachieve every year and that's on him. The first guy to get the axe needs to be Jason Garrett, though.

The Cowboys have lost their identity, that RB corps needs to get more carries.
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They need an entire regime change. Jerry knows it and the only thing keeping his finger off the trigger is the roster they have right now. They have superbowl talent and it was the right decision to keep the system intact to try to get there this year, but they are getting close to the point where they have to start making changes at the coaching level. If Wade doesn't rally his troops and win some games, he'll get fired at the end of the year.


Yep, top to bottom, Wade would be great as a DC and to just let that be his only concern week to week but when was the last time a HC was demoted to coordinator? Be nice but don't see it happening. Until there is a change with the coaching staff things will always be the same. I still think with the coaches in tact we can win a playoff game at the least if we sneak in, but nothing more.


At this point a top 12 pick would make me more happy then anything, maybe we can get a Safety that actually knows how to create turnovers.
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At this point a top 12 pick would make me more happy then anything, maybe we can get a Safety that actually knows how to create turnovers.
Or maybe cover that wide open TE streaking down the middle of the field? ;)

Honestly, I think this team absolutely has the talent to be a Superbowl contender, but are being held back by coaching on offense and overall poor game management.

What I'd do if I were them is try to pick up Mankins this offseason if he is still available, even if it costs a first rounder. He'd help sure up the left side of the line and hopefully make Doug Free better. Then find a RT and a S by other means.

That, in addition to a change in coaching would really bring them back as a contender.

But, that probably makes too much sense to ever happen.
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They need an entire regime change. Jerry knows it and the only thing keeping his finger off the trigger is the roster they have right now. They have superbowl talent and it was the right decision to keep the system intact to try to get there this year, but they are getting close to the point where they have to start making changes at the coaching level. If Wade doesn't rally his troops and win some games, he'll get fired at the end of the year.
I'm starting to wonder about that.
Do they really?
Forget the BS Pro-Bowl votes. Do they really have Super Bowl talent or are we overrating their talent based on the superhype that team gets?

I think the Packers are better than Dallas at:
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And LB is pretty close with Matthews blowing up into a superstar, and the Packers depth at ILB.
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not right now but if they dont make it into the nfc championship game at least (i really dont think they will, and i didnt before the year.) then he is gone.
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I would fire Garrett 10 times over, before firing Wade. Wade has at least pulled his weight calling the defense. The offense is a dysfunctional mess, with no balance because of Garrett's horrible playcalling. Wade wanted to bring in Dan Reeves, to essentially, mentor Garrett. Wade puts on a happy face, but he was attempting to help this offense out, with an experienced offensive coach. Sadly for us, contract talks fell through with Reeves and Jones, and Garrett has been giving complete control over that unit. Wade isnt fully confident in Garrett, and he should have been given control to bring in his own offensive coordinator from the very beginning. Jerry just wrongfully handed the offense over to Garrett and Jason calls all the shots and oversees that offensive unit. I will never blame Wade for the offenses shortcomings, because Jerry doesnt even allow him to be involved in the offense. Jerry's blind faith in Garrett is hurting the team more than anything else.

It's become apparent to all, professionals and fans alike...that Garrett is a horrible playcaller. I just hope Jerry actually takes notice. He in no way deserves to become the next head coach for the Cowboys. And if he does, I sure as hell hope he relinquishes his playcalling duties. The guy can draw them up, but he is a god awful playcaller.
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I'm starting to wonder about that.
Do they really?
Forget the BS Pro-Bowl votes. Do they really have Super Bowl talent or are we overrating their talent based on the superhype that team gets?

I think the Packers are better than Dallas at:
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DL
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And LB is pretty close with Matthews blowing up into a superstar, and the Packers depth at ILB.
Dallas has SB talent because of the versatility of their offensive weapons. In the passing game Austen is a monster and I'd probably pick him over Jennings, and Dez has boatloads of talent as he develops, then you factor in Witten who's still the best TE in the league even though he hasn't gotten going yet this year and a flurry of running backs that could still beast on teams if they were to abandon the pass. The Packers are a better passing offense, but the Cowboys can run the ball so much better than the cowboys that their offensive talent can only be called elite.

Their secondary has issue but they have two good young DBs and some monsters in the front seven as Ware's the best rush backer in the league and Jay Ratliff is a monster. The defense is probably only a little better than the Packers', but with the greater offensive versatility I'd have to say that I do think they're a more purely talented team than the Packers. That said they're run far far worse with a moronic OC who's somehow prevented they're soft HC from completely taking over the locker-room with the owner's help.
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I'm starting to wonder about that.
Do they really?
Forget the BS Pro-Bowl votes. Do they really have Super Bowl talent or are we overrating their talent based on the superhype that team gets?

I think the Packers are better than Dallas at:
QB
WR
TE
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DB

And LB is pretty close with Matthews blowing up into a superstar, and the Packers depth at ILB.
QB can go either way.

WR can go either way. I'd actually go with Dallas.

TE? BS. Finley is good, but jesus...we have Witten.
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QB can go either way.

WR can go either way.

TE? BS. Finley is good, but jesus...we have Witten.
I don't think that matters too much, even if you do take Rodgers and his WRs over Dallas' the insane difference in the running game gives you guys a blatant advantage in pure talent. That said Finley > Witten and Bennett is ridiculous and Rodgers is a notch above Romo right meow, although it is a lot closer than many on this forum seem to believe as Garrett's pure incompetence and predictability is often under-rated, sometimes drastically so, by non-NFC East fans.
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Wish we'd use those running backs. :/
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Wish we'd use those running backs. :/
Nah, it's cool.
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