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Old 09-20-2010, 12:35 PM    (permalink
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Aight a couple undefeated teams getting together next week in Tampa. This will be a defensive game and very low scoring. I have a gutt feeling we win this thing 13-10.

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i think the steelers win in a similar fashion as they did against the titans....really get in freemans face, eliminate the run game and cause turnovers and play "run run run FG" on offense

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i think the steelers win in a similar fashion as they did against the titans....really get in freemans face, eliminate the run game and cause turnovers and play "run run run FG" on offense

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That honestly would surprise me all that much. The Steelers' D is going to be a difficult challenge for the Bucs' O. With the QB situation in Pitt they are going to be pretty limited, as they were yesterday.

I'd love to see the Bucs get the running game going, I just don't think that is very likely this week. If the Bucs win, Freeman will have to lead the way with the passing attack - IMHO.
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Our running game will average less than 1 ypc, so I hope they open up the pass playbook and let Freeman win the game. I have much more faith in Freeman than I do in Vince Young's passing ability.

Our defense is extremely underrated and the Pitt o-line is by far the worst of the lines that we have seen this year. We should have no problem against that offense.

Special teams won the game for the Steelers last week, and special teams could very well be the deciding factor again this week. We need Michael Spurlock to come up with some huge returns like Clifton Smith did for us last year.

Steeler fans will still have the Bucs as a cupcake team but analyzing everything, THE BUCS SHOULD WIN THIS GAME
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17-6 Steelers.

Bucs are looking good and performing well but they aren't ready for this defense. Titans offense is a good bit better than the Bucs and they got butt whipped.

Steelers D is too much for them (Freeman) to handle and I think Leftwich comes in with a chip on his shoulder and hits Wallace atleast once for a long TD.
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If we can essentially negate Deangelo Williams and J-Stew we should be able to do the same against Mendenhall thus putting ourselves in a good position to win the game.

I think we have as good a chance of winning as Pitt has of beating us.
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17-6 Steelers.

Bucs are looking good and performing well but they aren't ready for this defense. Titans offense is a good bit better than the Bucs and they got butt whipped.

Steelers D is too much for them (Freeman) to handle and I think Leftwich comes in with a chip on his shoulder and hits Wallace atleast once for a long TD.
You are right, the Steelers defense will be a handful for us to deal with. They won that game in Tennesee by stacking the box to stop CJ2k and forced Vince Young to take the game in his hands by throwing the ball. Also the special teams did really well, so i give the Steelers defense and special teams props.

On offense, even in situations where the defense forced turnovers and got them in great scoring position, the Steelers could not capitalize. The o-line is not that impressive and I think Tampa's faced 2 better o-line's than Pittsburgh, and if Leftwich is behind center, they could have a field day. The rookie DT tandem of Price and McCoy have been generating a ton of pressure on qb's and the Bucs secondary has capitalized on that.

On special teams, Tampa is one of the best, both coverage and returns in the League. ( that was their strength last year as well). Can't expect the steelers to have that type of success again, but who knows.????

Offensively, I don't like the comparison that Freeman will be as rattled as Vince Young. I listen to both Young and Freeman in their press conferences and interviews, Freeman seems wiser beyond his years and is more calm too pressure. Also, Freeman has a more natural feel in the pocket than VY and is better at avoiding sacks (at 6'6 255, he is one of the hardest QB's to sack, dont believe me, look at some high lights this year and last).

Overall, I think this will be a defensive showdown. A game that will be won in the 4th qtr. No offense to Steeler fans, but Pittsburgh is heading down South in the Florida Heat and Humidity, wearing black. They have absolutely no pass game and Tampa Bay just came off holding Stewart and Williams to a combined total of 97 yards rushing, which is impressive for this young defense. I think Olsen and Rah know the game plan and that is play mistake free football and make conservative play calling against a steelers team that feasts on TO's.

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i cant wait to see pouncey vs mccoy
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Me too. In the words of WWF commentator JR, this out to be a slobber knocker. I see a good defensive battle brewing.
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Mike Williams is such a beast. He's the player i fear most from the Bucs and thats saying allot for a rookie!
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i think the steelers win in a similar fashion as they did against the titans....really get in freemans face, eliminate the run game and cause turnovers and play "run run run FG" on offense

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You could be right, but I'll go through this post step by step:

"Get in Freeman's face": our pass protection has been amazing through the first 2 games. Cleveland has an underrated defense and they mix up blitzes to apply pressure similar to PIT. Obviously we're not gonna shut down one of the best pass rushing teams but we'll do a better job than you expect.

"Eliminate the run game": I concede this one. No doubt. We'll try to run to set up 3rd and 5/6 but we'll be lucky to get 2ypc from Cadillac.

"Cause turnovers": this one is hard to predict. Freeman has been careful with the ball, smart and accurate.

"Run run run FG": I'm most confident that this won't work out. So far our run D has been stellar on 1st and 2nd down. We give up the occasional 10 yard carry but we wrap up to prevent the long run. It's a bend but don't break defense.


My analysis and expectations are that Pittsburgh will struggle to move the ball offensively unless Leftwich/Batch can make some plays downfield and convert 3rd downs. Offensively we will struggle to move the ball and also move backwards at times. We're capable of making big pass plays and Freeman is tough to stop on 3rd down with his mobility and arm. It's really a matter of how many big plays/conversions we get compared to how many turnovers/big negative plays happen.

Another thing to keep in mind is that we're also a team that thrives off of forcing turnovers and getting big returns in the kicking game, similar to Pittsburgh. We're very similar teams in general. It's all about momentum with 2 teams like that.
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FWIW, in a interview at the NFL combine, I think Gerald said that the Maurkice was the toughest non-teammate he had faced in college.
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i would have absolutely loved mike williams in the draft...i said hed be a big time steal and hes proving me right so far. his character issues were so overblown, hes not the headcase they made him out to be
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Which really means, he is the toughest person he faced because there is no one on the Sooners line that has the ability of Pouncey.

Should be fun to watch. Legursky is starting RG as well, so I look for that to help our run game.
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It will be a defense game. Steelers & Buc are only giving up 10.5 points a game. I see the game being tied 3-3 or 7-7 late in the fourth quarter, Then a turnover occurs, costing a team the game. This game can go any way really, but i see a field goal being the diffrence.
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20-10 Steelers. I think Leftwich makes our offense a little better. While our line hasn't been great, it hasn't been terrible either. People fail to realize that we were on a third string line on Sunday and still managed to play well as a unit.

Also, I have seen that QBs that go against Lebeau for the first time do not end well. We will see. Tampa could be back on the rise or just playing way over their heads like Denver was last year. Sunday we will find that out.
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20-10 Steelers. I think Leftwich makes our offense a little better. While our line hasn't been great, it hasn't been terrible either. People fail to realize that we were on a third string line on Sunday and still managed to play well as a unit.

Also, I have seen that QBs that go against Lebeau for the first time do not end well. We will see. Tampa could be back on the rise or just playing way over their heads like Denver was last year. Sunday we will find that out.
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Yeah, I'm kind of hoping for the Steelers to start Lord Byron. Altough, he has the ability to throw deep passes (it's the only thing he can do right), so that could hurt us with Barber being slow, TJack looking average on pass coverage and Sean Jones being.... Sean Jones.

But the possibility of getting sacks and turnovers is greater with Byron on the field instead of Batch. In a close defensive game, that could help us a lot. Barber and TJack need to step up.
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Yeah, I'm kind of hoping for the Steelers to start Lord Byron. Altough, he has the ability to throw deep passes (it's the only thing he can do right), so that could hurt us with Barber being slow, TJack looking average on pass coverage and Sean Jones being.... Sean Jones.

But the possibility of getting sacks and turnovers is greater with Byron on the field instead of Batch. In a close defensive game, that could help us a lot. Barber and TJack need to step up.
Pittsburgh's pass protection is not very good thats why Dennis Dixon was a better bet as he could avoid pressure.

The Bucs front 4, led by McCoy and Price have been getting pressure on the qb consistantly against 2 teams I think have better O-Lines than Pittsburgh right now. If they do the same against the Steelers with Leftwhich back there, it could be a disaster for the Steelers.
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leftwich is much more decisive than dixon, the pass blocking will hold up, especially without hartwig at center
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With concrete shoes controlling the Pitt offense we should be able to get to him at least 2-3 times this game. I am so glad we got rid of him because unless you give him 5+ seconds in the pocket he is pretty much useless.

If I was Pitt I'd go with Charlie Batch who I've always been a fan of.
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Byron Leftwich gives us much more of a chance of winning than Batch does. Trust us. He knows the offense and has a cannon of an arm to hit Wallace deep.

Caddy, if you get to Byron 2-3 times only, then our offensive line has won the day. Just FYI. I'm thinking each team probably gets 4-5 sacks. But the Steelers are used to that. And know how to play with that being the case. I expect Timmons to have a ridiculous day again. And Woodley must come ready to ball. He is our only LBer who weighs more than Freeman, so he will have the easiest job of bringing him down.
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james harrison begs to differ lol
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If 2-3 sacks is your offensive line winning the battle I hate to see it when it loses. 4-5 sacks per team seems incredibly generous to me.
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steelers giving up 5 sacks and winning the game pretty easily is not a rarity at all
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