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Old 09-29-2010, 01:00 PM    (permalink
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Somebody's Butt-Hurt about that 38-13 massacre. You'll be alright man. (btw, Brooks WAS a true MLB)
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...B/BrooDe00.htm

I think you'll see very clearly, that your 'TRUE' middle linebacker played all 13 of his NFL seasons at outside linebacker.
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Somebody's Butt-Hurt about that 38-13 massacre. You'll be alright man. (btw, Brooks WAS a true MLB)
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Somebody's Butt-Hurt about that 38-13 massacre. You'll be alright man. (btw, Brooks WAS a true MLB)
I really don't even know what to say...
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Greg Lloyd (1)

Lloyd is considered by Steelers top brass and fans alike the team's best LB since the 1970s.

He forced 35 fumbles in 147 career games, was a beast against the run and had 11 career INTs.
Sorry, I just can't agree with this. Love me some Lloyd but Harrison is a better OLB than he is. Harrison has 21 FF in 50 starts. That is basically a FF every 9-10 quarters. Harrison is better at just about every aspect of the game. If Lloyd is getting a vote, then Harrison should but I don't think either of them should.

I will however be voting Greene at some point. He technicially should be ahead of DT. But that is neither here nor there.
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Sorry, I just can't agree with this. Love me some Lloyd but Harrison is a better OLB than he is. Harrison has 21 FF in 50 starts. That is basically a FF every 9-10 quarters. Harrison is better at just about every aspect of the game. If Lloyd is getting a vote, then Harrison should but I don't think either of them should.

I will however be voting Greene at some point. He technicially should be ahead of DT. But that is neither here nor there.
I'll wait to evaluate Harrison after his career is over. That being said Lloyd had five or more FFs in five straight seasons. Harrison has done that in three so far. With two already this year he has a legit shot to reach that number again but it can't be assumed that he will reach Lloyd's streak.

Lloyd wasn't playing the classic Steeler OLB role during his time here. A lot of time he was dropping in to coverage, which his 11 career picks can attest to.
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Um pretty sure Brooks was MLB nice try though. (btw, sorry bout sunday)
THE prototypical (and maybe the best coverage) WLB in the 4-3 and you think he played MLB? Really? REALLY!?
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c'mon guys um obviously pullin your legs, i live in Tampa for petes sake i think I WOULD KNOW.lol
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Only two more votes for Bell! Come on guys!
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That's actually #10 for Bell.

1. Lawrence Taylor
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4. Ted Hendricks
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Derrick Brooks - 6
Kevin Greene - 1
Greg Lloyd - 1
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Can we redo the #3 spot?? Brooks and Greene were both better than him. DT, I can see at #7. If not, oh well.

My vote goes to Brooks as the 5th best OLB ever. :D
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I'll go with Derrick Brooks[8] as well.
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Lloyd is considered by Steelers top brass and fans alike the team's best LB since the 1970s.

He forced 35 fumbles in 147 career games, was a beast against the run and had 11 career INTs.
The first video game I ever had was NFL Gameday 98 for the original playstation, and I played with the Steelers a lot because Bettis was unstoppable (and as a 9 year old I wanted to play with him since he was on the cover). Greg Lloyd was an absolute beast in that game; I still remember that the Steelers had Lloyd, Levon Kirkland, Earl Holmes, Jason Gildon, and Mike Vrable in that game. That is the end of my rant, believe it or not I didn't get another console until my freshman year of college and that was the 360. Maybe that's why I remember it so well.
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I'm going to say Kevin Greene [2] here. He racked up 160 sacks, the record for a linebacker and is the only linebacker to lead the NFL in sacks twice.
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I'm down with Kevin Greene (3)
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Randy ******* Gradishar (1)

Dude had it all (range, run stopping ability, coverage, pass rush), and was the glue to Denver's Orange Crush defense.

Then again, I guess he's technically an ILB. He only played OLB for a few years IIRC because Denver eventually went to a 3-4.

So nevermind. I have to go with Derrick Brooks (9). He was an absolutely dominant force in the Tampa Two and his DPOTY year (Superbowl season) was absolutely ridiculous.

He and Greene were pillars of consistency from year to year. They were both absolutely perfect for the schemes and roles they played. That one's a tough vote.

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Tippett should make the list.

Candidates for the last 5 spots...

Kevin Greene
Derrick Brooks
Greg Lloyd
Junior Seau
Rickey Jackson
Andre Tippett
Harry Carson

Anyone else who needs to get mentioned?
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According to PFR, he spent his first three years inside and his next ten outside. I'd say that qualifies him.
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According to PFR, he spent his first three years inside and his next ten outside. I'd say that qualifies him.
The next 10 were actually inside in the 3-4 (RILB). Carl Banks was the other OLB with LT on their Super Bowl team.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...C/CarsHa00.htm

And Derrick Brooks (10)
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Apparently, I can't read properly. Thanks for the correction.

edit - I know that I voted for Greene, but I am officially rescinding that vote to start the Ricky Jackson wagon. He needs to make this list.
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Rickey Jackson!

Btw, Rickey is a champion eater, he's always destroying this local hibachi restaraunt I frequent.
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oh please. as if canadians even know what beer is.
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