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05-23-2011, 08:17 PM
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Can someone sell me on the idea that he is a guard only? The dude is a dancing bear.
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<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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Whats a good comparison for Osemele? Right now I have him as my 3rd OT behind Kalil and Martin
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05-23-2011, 11:17 PM
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Whats a good comparison for Osemele? Right now I have him as my 3rd OT behind Kalil and Martin
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Jason Peters.
Men this big shouldn't have feet this good. Osemele has been very underrated this preseason. Just go back and watch the tape from last year. There is a reason Adrian Clayborn AND Aldon Smith were both shut down when playing Iowa State last year, and that's becuase of Osemele.
Honestly, I do need to watch more of Kalil, but have watched a good share of Osemele and Jonathan Martin, and I like Osemele more. Like I said, Osemele reminds me of Jason Peters, whereas Martin reminds me of Eugene Monroe, a prospect I liked, but didn't love, and has struggled a bit so far in the NFL.
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09-03-2011, 10:43 PM
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Osemele is now playing for an awful team with an awful QB, saw a few drives today and he did his job. Stonewalled the DE across from him on pass plays and was a force in the run game. I didn't notice much technique wise, hand placement, footwork wise because the team sucks so badly.
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<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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09-03-2011, 11:40 PM
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http://www.cyclones.com/mediaPortal/...0700&id=724004
sounds like a dude who knows what he is talking about. Plus I read this about him
[14:19] <boe> Kelechi Osemele
[14:20] <boe> Having zero sacks against and zero missed assignments this year is pretty near perfect. Last year the business major finished without any sacks against him the entire season. Osemele still wants to improve his footwork this season and find more responsibility on the field by picking up an extra opponent if needed.
I will be keeping a keen eye out on him.
Anyone else got some info bout this dude?
the more I read the more i like about this guy. sounds like a great character kid.
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He sounds like he has asthma.
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09-10-2011, 10:49 AM
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vs. Iowa this week on National TV. Check him out, #72 LT.
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<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
<+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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09-10-2011, 11:22 AM
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HE was rolled up on, KO is down. Only played like 8-11 snaps last week. His ankle is ******.
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<TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
<+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
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Originally Posted by Hermstheman83
What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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09-10-2011, 06:22 PM
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Can someone sell me on the idea that he is a guard only? The dude is a dancing bear.
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Watch this video and u'll understand...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O2UR_FWqas
He can get turned into a whipping boy REALLY quick with those quicker/faster pass rushers. He got beat like a DRUM vs. Oklahoma and i'm afraid that he's gonna be in the same boat as he was in the video above.
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11-18-2011, 08:10 PM
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If you're interested, check out KO right now vs. Okie State. From what I understand he's fighting a bit of an ankle sprain so this is a big test for him.
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/9...owa-state.html
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Is he a Guard only or can he play RT?
I would love him at RT, the guy is a monster!
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<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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02-07-2012, 08:56 AM
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What are people's opinions of him right now?
I have seen the tremedous size and the sneaky athletic ability, but I have not seen him play a lot.
How did he do in the Senior Bowl?
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02-07-2012, 09:31 AM
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What are people's opinions of him right now?
I have seen the tremedous size and the sneaky athletic ability, but I have not seen him play a lot.
How did he do in the Senior Bowl?
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He was pretty bad in the Senior Bowl. Coples had his way with him, after being held down pretty well by Mike Adams and Mitchell Schwartz. I thought he could hold his own at RT in the NFL, but after the Senior Bowl, I'm thinking strictly a LG in the NFL. As a LG though, I still think he can be a poor man's Carl Nicks. I think Osemele could be a top 5 G in the league. Get those feet, long arms and nastiness in a smaller space inside, and I think he'll excel.
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02-07-2012, 10:24 AM
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He was pretty bad in the Senior Bowl. Coples had his way with him, after being held down pretty well by Mike Adams and Mitchell Schwartz. I thought he could hold his own at RT in the NFL, but after the Senior Bowl, I'm thinking strictly a LG in the NFL. As a LG though, I still think he can be a poor man's Carl Nicks. I think Osemele could be a top 5 G in the league. Get those feet, long arms and nastiness in a smaller space inside, and I think he'll excel.
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With how how much he still has to learn, you don't think a good NFL OL coach can turn him into a Kareem McKenzie? Maybe it's just cause I'm a giants fan, but the kid seems to have everything necessary to become that type of reliable, wide bodied, great run blocking RT.
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02-07-2012, 10:49 AM
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With how how much he still has to learn, you don't think a good NFL OL coach can turn him into a Kareem McKenzie? Maybe it's just cause I'm a giants fan, but the kid seems to have everything necessary to become that type of reliable, wide bodied, great run blocking RT.
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He can be coached up to play RT but it might take too long. It could be a Vlad Ducasse situation. Probably way easier to make him a guard. Solid 2nd round player.
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02-07-2012, 11:27 AM
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I am an ISU grad and have watched a ton of KO. This is my take on him.
Size wise he has the look of a tackle. He is tall with really long arms and is has a good overall body structure.
If you re-watch the Senior Bowl, you will see one of the few offensive lineman that continues to hit his guy even after the play is by him, so he shows that he has a bit of a nasty streak.
Played with a bad ankle almost all season long and has had other injuries throughout his career. Will play through the injuries but injuries are somewhat of a concern.
Has heavy feet but has shown glimpses that he can be coached up and move better than what he is currently given credit for.
What I think is his weakest aspect and can easily be corrected is his use of hands and using his arm length to his advantage. When he gets his arms extended and on the guy, it is over, no one is getting by or around him. When he keeps his hand close to his body and lets the defender get into him, then he struggles to keep leverage. I though he did well in the Senior Bowl except the 2 times against Coples where his hands never left his shoulder pads.
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He can be coached up to play RT but it might take too long. It could be a Vlad Ducasse situation. Probably way easier to make him a guard. Solid 2nd round player.
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That's one of those thigns that'll come down to how hard he's willing to work, how well he learns and adjusts, and how good of coaching he receives. I might be over-rating him based off of limited viewing but if he's a quick learner I don't think him become a good sophomore starter is unrealistic. Seems like the interview process will be huge for this kid.
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02-08-2012, 10:05 AM
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id love him as the steelers second round pick...even more so if we draft glenn, konz, or adams in 1...the oline could go from a glaring weakness to an incredible strength
i think his stock right now is similar to ben ijalana
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"He won't be able to just use his arm power to throw defenders around at the next level!"
The hell he won't, lol.
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Without a doubt I see him shooting up to the first round, sort of like James Carpenter last year. Only he's a way bigger, more physical prospect than Carpenter.
No doubt in my mind he'll put up huge numbers in the bench press
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He could probably play Tackle (there are plenty horrific ones currently in the NFL), but if you want the best out of him, then you make him a Guard and that's ultimately where I see his future NFL team using him at.
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Without a doubt I see him shooting up to the first round, sort of like James Carpenter last year. Only he's a way bigger, more physical prospect than Carpenter.
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he's not as good a pass blocker. Carpenter had great balance and feet. I don't think he's ready to start instantly (at tackle) and that will keep him out of the 1st round.
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Without a doubt I see him shooting up to the first round, sort of like James Carpenter last year. Only he's a way bigger, more physical prospect than Carpenter.
No doubt in my mind he'll put up huge numbers in the bench press
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if anyone does that i think it will be brandon washington
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"He won't be able to just use his arm power to throw defenders around at the next level!"
The hell he won't, lol.
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03-25-2012, 03:40 PM
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Is he a Guard only or can he play RT?
I would love him at RT, the guy is a monster!
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Personally, I think he "can" play tackle. But I think his absolute best position and best chance at great success is at guard kind of like Carl Nicks. I wouldn't mind the Chiefs taking him in the second to replace Lilja and give us some size and power on the offensive line. Size and power that we could REALLY use.
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I think he can be a RT - his wing span makes it a long trip around to the QB. Technique at times looks good - others sloppy. Main concern was talk from NFL Network at the Senior Bowl that there are some work ethic concerns. I think he's probably a 2nd rounder if all checks out off the field.
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IMO, he is strictly an OG, he is going to have to watch his weight and could easily eat himself out of the NFL. He is lazy on the football field and needs a strong dose of aggression and toughness if he wants to play effectively in the NFL.
His ceiling is off the charts but he has to want it and work hard to achieve it and he hasn't shown those traits in college.
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About what round is Osemele projected to go in?
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