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Old 11-15-2010, 03:01 PM    (permalink
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Are you really bragging about beating the Lions?
It's a thing between me and him......I didn't start it this time. I haven't talked crap on the Lions in like 5 days. I didn't even make fun of them for losing to Buffalo.
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No way Shanny wants him back and no way Donovan wants back with other teams like Arizona and Minny needing QB's. There is no turning back from this. Taking out Mcnabb when you have the ball down by 5 for Grossman is ridiculous. Forget that Grossman fumbled for a TD on his only play, even if he did lead you to a TD, by putting him in you are ruining any relationship with Mcnabb. Was he good, no, but no one with that protection would. He at least slides in the pocket, that Grossman play shows you everything. So now we need a QB for next year but will have a mid round pick. How sad.
Guess this didn't go that way...
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It's a thing between me and him......I didn't start it this time. I haven't talked crap on the Lions in like 5 days. I didn't even make fun of them for losing to Buffalo.
That is true, I guess I should have given you the benefit of the doubt.
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Guess this didn't go that way...
Yup if anything this seems like a complete overreaction to show that they back Mcnabb. An incredibly rash decision, not waiting till the end of the year is just a big head scratcher. In a year or two Mcnabb could be the highest paid clipboard holder to ever live.
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Yup if anything this seems like a complete overreaction to show that they back Mcnabb. An incredibly rash decision, not waiting till the end of the year is just a big head scratcher. In a year or two Mcnabb could be the highest paid clipboard holder to ever live.
I have a feeling he'll be cut before that point and will pocket a whole lot of cash for doing nothing.

I give it the rest of this year and some of next year before there are serious issues?
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Anything from keeping Grossman on the field is fine with me. It's not my money he's wasting, we probably would have spent that money on something even dumber so hey I've grown used to it.
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Translation: I'm trying my very best to spin this into a positive manner but i'm failing hard cause i refuse to admit my owner is an absolute 'tard.
Really, though, the rationalization makes sense.

How long does everyone really expect Shannahan to coach the Skins for? Four, maybe five years? I don't think anyone holds the impression that he's in it for ten years or anything. At this point, he doesn't want to go through growing pains with another young QB. The hope here is that he can surround McNabb with some more weapons, keep adding to the defense, and try to ride the old, crusty vet to the Superbowl a la Elway.

And everyone knows NFL contracts are funny money. There's probably a lot of fluff in those last two years to make this deal look larger than it really is.

That said, I don't agree with the move, but I understand the logic behind it and could come to grips with it if I was a Skins fan.
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Hmm, Snyder must have watched 2012 when thinking of this contract. With that said the final years are unguaranteed and this is likely a 3 year deal, we have played ourselves out of position to get a top QB so Mcnabb really is the best option for QB this summer. We'll see how he does next year when we get him a real O-line and some real RB's and not WR's from the Extreme Football League. Yeah it's a crap load of money but say we draft a Mallett or Cam Newton they could sit behind Mcnabb for a couple years. Mcnabb may not be the player he used to be but to think he isn't at least a serviceable stop gap QB is ridiculous. He's not exactly working in an ideal situation.
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the overreaction to this is crazy. not saying its the greatest move ever but your looking at an average of $8m guaranteed a year over a 5 year span. thats not even top 10 qb money currently. not even top 15 in 2009. probably even less in 2010 but i can only find full 2009 numbers. the other options next year for the skins in fa would have included matt moore, hasselbeck, alex smith, seneca wallace, shaun hill, etc...id take mcnabb at 8m no problem with the other options out there. draft a qb in the next couple years to groom.
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They broke some film of McNabb on NFL live which really isn't known for much film, but they showed a ton of McNabb missing wide open looks though, as if he was a rookie. I don't know what the hell is going on in Washington.
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Perfect timing on the signing, as if facing his former team and having just been benched isn't enough pressure.
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ROFL. This isn't much less than what Brady got... And McNabb got one more year and is older than Brady, who is one of the best now and forever - McNabb is neither...not even close. McNabb will be 39 when this contract expires... What?
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Obviously this is not a player whose contract they should be looking to extend past 2013 (at the latest). I don't understand 90% of the player transactions this franchise makes, to be honest...
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you guys act like the back end of this contract is going to be worth more than 2m a year...they will be paying him less than top 10 qb money for 3 years which is a very reasonable contract in my eyes then his 4th and 5th year will be worth nothing...
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Its the perfect plan, give him this before the Eagles game to get him to play lights out and then when the lockout comes around he wont get anything.
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I'm frankly shocked that they'd pour that much guaranteed money on McNabb. It feels like a mistake that I see NBA GM's do all the time. They make 1 mistake, then the next several moves are designed explicitly to prove that their mistake was not a mistake (read: 76ers giving Iguodala a max deal, then trying to make him the centerpiece of the team when it's clear he can't be that).

At the same time, if you assume that the Eagles are going to sign Vick and trade Kolb, you have to look at the FA market. There won't be anyone nearly as good, and the Eagles are highly unlikely to trade Kolb in the division, and the asking price is at least 1 first rounder. Essentially, McNabb had the Redskins over a barrel, and they had a choice: Admit a mistake and let him walk and draft someone new or pony up as an apology and lock him in. McNabb played the situation beautifully from a PR perspective, and he got enough money to set his kids and grandkids up for life.
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To quote someone over at ESPN: when did Isaiah Thomas become the GM for the Redskins?
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I think the timing had everything to do with the Redskins need to stay focused on the season and not on the QB/coach fiasco. It was a PR move on a deal that was probably close to getting done weeks ago. Shanahan forced the Skins to back down to McNabb's numbers. Sure, getting it done before the Eagles game helps, but I don't see it impacting much.
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you guys act like the back end of this contract is going to be worth more than 2m a year...they will be paying him less than top 10 qb money for 3 years which is a very reasonable contract in my eyes then his 4th and 5th year will be worth nothing...
They still guaranteed him $40 million. That's a big chunk of change.
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