Minnesota Vikings Discussion

[Crazy_Chris]

Vikes Claim Sage Rosenfels off waivers...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/M...waivers-120211

[FlyingElvis]

. . . and nobody bothers to claim McNabb. Shocker! lol

[vikes_28]

Rosencopter Fuckya

[marshallb]

Nothing new here, but God dammit our secondary is just atrocious:

@evansilva
Evan Silva
QBs vs #Vikings D over last 7 games: 146-205 (71.2%) for 1,808 yds (8.82 YPA), 18 TDs, 0 INTs. MIN has not intercepted a pass since Week 5.

I calculated that, and that is a 127.4 QB rating, I'm actually surprised it isn't higher given how terrible those numbers are.

[Crazy_Chris]

That completion percentage & YPA are incredibly horrid...

Over/Under 200 yards for Calvin Johnson this week lol

[The Dynasty]

Originally Posted by Crazy_Chris

That completion percentage & YPA are incredibly horrid...

Over/Under 200 yards for Calvin Johnson this week lol

Im gonna say Under but barely but I can see this game turning out to be a game last last week. Ponder throwing for 300 yards or so and Stafford 300-400 yards.

[djp]

http://landof10klosses.wordpress.com...-left-tackles/

article I wrote piggybacking on the left tackle debate discussed on SWDC as it relates to the Vikings and Matt Kalil vs Morris Claiborne. Let me know what you guys think. Our facebook page needs some likes as well if you're interested in that.

http://www.facebook.com/landof10klosses

[The Dynasty]

Matt Kalil declared according to Mort tonight.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/s...2012-nfl-draft

I say we have to go with him. As much as our secondary is an eye sore, we need to protect our future and that is Christian Ponder and we need a line that will open holes for Adrian Peterson. I feel like we need to go Kalil if he is available where we pick. Obviously at 2 he will be but I'm very concerned we end up beating the Bears at the end of the year or the Redskins next week. I just think we can find CB/WR help in the later rounds.

[djp]

Either way, truly, is fine. I just think Morris Claiborne is a better prospect. Absolutely love the guy. We just need talent at this point. It'd be nice to move down, and that's more of a possibility now with the new CBA. I'd love to get a '13 first rounder and '12 2nd rounder and move back 10-12 spots.

[The Dynasty]

Originally Posted by djp

Either way, truly, is fine. I just think Morris Claiborne is a better prospect. Absolutely love the guy. We just need talent at this point. It'd be nice to move down, and that's more of a possibility now with the new CBA. I'd love to get a '13 first rounder and '12 2nd rounder and move back 10-12 spots.

Yeah it would be nice to get a legit shut down Cornerback because the receivers we have in our division we need one. I think we can't go wrong with either of the 2. But I agree with you that it would be nice to slide down in the draft and pick up draft picks. Take a play out of the Patriots Draft Playbook.

[djp]

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/P..._changes121511

Peliseero writes the Vikings are at least considering a switch to a 3-4 front. Thoughts?

[eltwentyone]

not gonna happen, Leslie cant have a losing season next year, singletary can't run a defense, this team better lose out, so we can get khalil

[The Dynasty]

Originally Posted by djp

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/P..._changes121511

Peliseero writes the Vikings are at least considering a switch to a 3-4 front. Thoughts?

So that would mean what for our defense now? Jared Allen and Brian Robison going out to OLB and Greenway and Henderson to MLB?.. and then what would our D Line look like.. DE's would be Chrstian Ballard and Kevin Williams? and we would need a NT lol. Our secondary would still suck too.

I would rather have it just stay the same way because currently we aren't built for a 3-4 in my opinion.

[marshallb]

Originally Posted by djp

http://landof10klosses.wordpress.com...-left-tackles/

article I wrote piggybacking on the left tackle debate discussed on SWDC as it relates to the Vikings and Matt Kalil vs Morris Claiborne. Let me know what you guys think. Our facebook page needs some likes as well if you're interested in that.

http://www.facebook.com/landof10klosses

I don't think you need an elite LT if you've got an elite QB, but I don't know that Ponder will ever be an elite QB, I think he'll be above average, but not elite, so we'll need guys to protect him and guys to build holes for the running game. I also disagree on Claiborne being a superior prospect to Kalil. IMO, for us it goes Kalil>Claiborne>>>Blackmon>OT(Reiff/Martin/Adams)/Floyd.

[eltwentyone]

Sully has been signed to extension, 5 year 25 million,

[Vikes99ej]

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/C..._Vikings121711

Did I miss something? Has Sullivan been having a good year?

[Crazy_Chris]

Sullivan really stepped up his game this year. Glad they got him extended, hope he keeps playing this well.

[marshallb]

Originally Posted by Vikes99ej

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/C..._Vikings121711

Did I miss something? Has Sullivan been having a good year?

Since he stopped getting hurt every game right around week 5 he's been really solid, definitely didn't expect him to get that much though, but they wanted to get it done now to roll some of that cash onto the cap this year to open up more room for the future.

[marshallb]

@TomPelissero
Tom Pelissero
Cedric Griffin watching the entire game with a towel over his head, arms crossed. What a pro.

Yea, Griffin won't be back next year. When he's sitting behind Sapp, Sherels, and Burton that's most definitely not good.

[marshallb]

I have no clue how we're only down by 8 and get the ball to start the second half. The offense has been beyond atrocious, and the defense has gotten torn to pieces. If the Saints didn't make those mistakes, we're getting blown out and it wouldn't even be close to being a game.

[The Dynasty]

This whole game Ponder has looked scared out of his mind. He has been tucking down the ball so quick and not standing in there. Our Line is horrible for him and our receivers are just as bad.

[Crazy_Chris]

Definatly not looking like the same Ponder, he is playing scared.

[prock]

If the Vikings lose out and the Colts win one more game, who has the tiebreaker? Could we be looking at Andrew Luck? What do you think Ponder would go for on the open market?

[marshallb]

Originally Posted by prock

If the Vikings lose out and the Colts win one more game, who has the tiebreaker? Could we be looking at Andrew Luck? What do you think Ponder would go for on the open market?

The Colts would have the tiebreaker due to SOS unless things change drastically over the final couple weeks. I don't see us looking at Luck, especially if Frazier is back. Ponder wouldn't go for nearly as much as Luck would go for. We could probably get a mid first rounder for him from the right team, or the equivalent of that, but if we traded Luck/the #1 pick we could get multiple first round picks, and multiple early picks(2nd/3rd), and probably more. It's all moot though as Indy would all but have to win out as they've got a fairly distinct advantage in the tiebreaker with a worse SOS, and that's not happening, and on top of that we could quite possibly win another game playing Washington and Chicago.


Why can't we just have more players like Jared Allen and Chad Greenway, Allen especially. There aren't enough guys in the league who aren't afraid to tell it how it is, and play all out despite the situation.

@TomPelissero
Tom Pelissero
Multiple #Vikings players indicating some teammates are playing scared. Jared Allen called out the team generally.

@TomPelissero
Tom Pelissero
Allen: "A lot of people are probably going to get fired at this point anyways. What are you going to lose? Go out, make plays and try to put

@TomPelissero
Tom Pelissero
"... your best effort out there and win games. Sometimes, we get in a backpedal mode and just try to maintain so we don’t get beat too bad.


@TomPelissero
Tom Pelissero
"... Screw that. Let’s just go win."

@TomPelissero
Tom Pelissero
Greenway: "We can’t go out there and say we should have won the game. We shouldn’t have. We are just not good enough."

[Crazy_Chris]

AD said Jabari Greer was twisting his injured ankle...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-at-his-ankle/