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Old 07-07-2014, 03:16 AM    (permalink
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Default Let's brainstorm all of the valid reasons for...

...rolling up money in a bathroom next to a guy holding a bag full of an unidentified white substance.

Seriously, let's get downright ridiculous in JAWNY FOOTBAW's defense. I'll start.

Maybe he really needed a cigarette, but no one in the entire club had a smoke or rolling papers...so it's tobacco in money. The little white bag in the other guy's hand there? Powdered Comet bathroom cleaner. Johnny hired him to clean the toilet before he takes a dump because he's just a clean guy like that.



Also, having a straw in your beer seems Rudy Cool.

This kid is going to make Ryan Leaf look like Peyton Manning. There shall be a busting, and it shall be quite a spectacle.

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Might be a coke-head and party with goons, but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't be able to throw the football. There have been choir boys at QB who have stunk up the joint. And guys that have apparently given a lackluster effort behind the scenes and still experienced a good amount of success in the NFL. Can't pass judgement on Manziel yet from his ability to play the position because he isn't God's number one son. If he wins games and/or plays well Manziel and his frat boy behavior will be embraced with open arms. As sad as it seems.
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1: In my experience, people roll up bills in club bath rooms for one reason, and one reason only..
2: How the hell does Manziel and his people keep letting these pictures getting out?
3: Mono, I'm pretty sure that's a cocktail, not a beer, which makes it less Rudy Cool.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:10 AM    (permalink
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Johnny is rolling up a spitwad shooter, his buddy has a bag full of premade spitwads. He didn't want to use the straw in his drink cause he drinks through a straw like a girl.
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Might be a coke-head and party with goons, but that doesn't necessarily mean he won't be able to throw the football. There have been choir boys at QB who have stunk up the joint. And guys that have apparently given a lackluster effort behind the scenes and still experienced a good amount of success in the NFL. Can't pass judgement on Manziel yet from his ability to play the position because he isn't God's number one son. If he wins games and/or plays well Manziel and his frat boy behavior will be embraced with open arms. As sad as it seems.
1. Disparity between QBs who have partied and had success and a rookie who hasn't even started training camp yet doing it. Let alone with a play style that is highly suspect in regards to whether it will work in the NFL.

2. Can't pass judgement one way or the other sure. No one is because no one has seen him play. We can pass judgment however on his decision making thus far, which is almost beyond comprehension how egregious his decisions are becoming two months into the NFL.

3. What the hell is that last part.
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How many QBs with character issues have been successful? Roethlisberger? Vick (though I question how successful he really was)? Marino (he did coke in college right)? In pretty sure that's it. I wouldn't have faith in any player who does cocaine turning out to be successful and gor a QB it's even less likely. Here's hoping he gets a surprise visit from some NFL drug testers this week.
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Who picked the Johnny Manziel = Matt Jones comp first?
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I thought our motto was supposed to be play like a Brown not party like a Brown.
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lol at johnny football for letting pics like this slip out. I'm pretty sure most NFLers have railed some coke at a club, but pros don't let pics of it get out.
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There is probably a good percentage of pros who have dabbled in blow, the idiocy here is doing it out in the open and giving people the opportunity to get pictures like this out on the internet.
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Coupled with his team and organization persistently asking him to tone it down and be more careful and the fact he basically told them to piss off he wasn't changing. His self destruction in this league has already surpassed my expectations, and its already so much fun to watch.
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I don't care about drinking but if he is doing blow and other drugs then he is a moron.
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Its so clear that he is going to fail so hard that i believe he may come in and dominate
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Even if he was clean and outworked everyone on the team, I still had strong questions about his ability to succeed. Him partying and showing up his owner makes me believe he will bust.
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Shortest time from draft pick to bust in sports history?
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How exactly is he a bust if he hasn't played yet, he could be completely fine and this is just what he does on the offseason (as long as it isn't drugs).

It's possible he wasn't snorting anything but he hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt... Someone in his immediate vicinity needs to wake him the **** up because this partying stuff is getting old extremely fast. You can party and have a good time just like anyone else, but surrounding yourself with people like Bieber is a recipe for disaster.
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It's possible he wasn't snorting anything but he hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt...
This is a chat forum, not court. I am not held to "innocent until proven guilty" standards. He is rolling a dollar bill in a bathroom next to a guy with a bag of white powder. He's a cokehead.
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I dont think him partying with ever get old.

Its like favre news, or tebow anything...it just works for me
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This is a chat forum, not court. I am not held to "innocent until proven guilty" standards. He is rolling a dollar bill in a bathroom next to a guy with a bag of white powder. He's a cokehead.
I said it is possible that he was not doing it but he hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt.

You're basically arguing with me for agreeing with you.
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Its like favre news, or tebow anything...it just works for me
As long as he balls out and doesn't get suspended I really don't care, football season needs to get here.

The only legit reason that involves him not being the one doing something would be him rolling it up for a buddy who was extremely ****** up.
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He is clearly rolling that with intentions of ripping a line of blow lol
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"He won't be able to just use his arm power to throw defenders around at the next level!"

The hell he won't, lol.
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Wait so you mean the character Concerns were valid?

I maintain that if he came from a poor background with his personal history and family history he'd have been significantly downgraded, if not flat out going undrafted. Instead he came from privilege, always had excuses made for him, and will continue to have excuses made for him going forward. The truth is he's a *****, he will always be a *****, and the Browns again proved why they are the worst franchise in the NFL by drafting him in the first round when nothing indicated he had the physical talent or football iq to warrant the pick.
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He's young and dumb... and that's cool. But when I did my "young and dumb" stuff... I made sure it didn't end up as everyone's business (locally. Obviously, I'm not a national/global icon). Partly because I didn't want my parents (and younger sister...) knowing. Partly because it was no one elses business.

Mr Football needs to learn some of that... and in a hurry. Maybe it'd be better if he weren't doing it, but it certainly isn't good when you are doing it and getting caught. People lose faith in you and whatnot. It certainly doesn't give him much credibility to go to Josh Gordon to tell him he might want to get a taxi next time if Manziel is snorting coke off of a counter/hooker in a night club.
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He's young and dumb... and that's cool. But when I did my "young and dumb" stuff... I made sure it didn't end up as everyone's business (locally. Obviously, I'm not a national/global icon). Partly because I didn't want my parents (and younger sister...) knowing. Partly because it was no one elses business.

Mr Football needs to learn some of that... and in a hurry. Maybe it'd be better if he weren't doing it, but it certainly isn't good when you are doing it and getting caught. People lose faith in you and whatnot. It certainly doesn't give him much credibility to go to Josh Gordon to tell him he might want to get a taxi next time if Manziel is snorting coke off of a counter/hooker in a night club.
The young and dumb excuse ends the day you're drafted. He demonstrated gross immaturity at Texas A&M, including substance abuse problems. Now is obvious those concerns were valid and just proves why all of his apologists need to ****.
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He's probably just snorting adderall so that he can better study the playbook.
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