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View Poll Results: Who's gonna be the best of these QB's when all is said and done?
Josh Freeman, Bucs 59 15.05%
Matthew Stafford, Lions 126 32.14%
Sam Bradford, Rams 76 19.39%
Mark Sanchez, Jets 19 4.85%
Joe Flacco, Ravens 33 8.42%
Matt Ryan, Falcons 79 20.15%
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What the **** has happened to these young gentlemen?
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They all regressed except Matt Stafford... who knows why. Bradford, Freeman, and Ryan doing worse mostly has to due with tougher schedules.
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They all regressed except Matt Stafford... who knows why. Bradford, Freeman, and Ryan doing worse mostly has to due with tougher schedules.
You can't regress if your on IR the 1st 2 season and having Megatron bail you out.
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Matt Ryan is painfully average this season...

he's already got 8 ints when he got 9 all of last season.

Not to mention he's only thrown 1 touchdown/game in the past 5 games
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None of these QBs has been particularly impressive this year. Even Stafford, despite his numbers (thanks to Megatron) hasn't looked all that great.
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Matt Ryan is painfully average this season...

he's already got 8 ints when he got 9 all of last season.

Not to mention he's only thrown 1 touchdown/game in the past 5 games


Who else there hasn't looked average or worse though?
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Who else there hasn't looked average or worse though?
He probably gets less of a pass only because he's a year older than the rest and he had a decent year last year.

EDIT: what I don't understand is how Freeman went from being one of the most careful qbs in the league to careless.
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Matt Ryan is painfully average this season...

he's already got 8 ints when he got 9 all of last season.

Not to mention he's only thrown 1 touchdown/game in the past 5 games
That's only because he's become infatuated with the QB sneak at the goal line.
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He probably gets less of a pass only because he's a year older than the rest and he had a decent year last year.

EDIT: what I don't understand is how Freeman went from being one of the most careful qbs in the league to careless.
His interception totals from last year were unsustainable. Freeman put up similar numbers to Cassel last year, and just like Cassel it was mostly a product of feasting on a schedule full of weak passing defenses.
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That's only because he's become infatuated with the QB sneak at the goal line.

And a bunch of endzone PIs. He played fantastic against CAR, stats be damned. But he has certainly regressed this year.
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And a bunch of endzone PIs. He played fantastic against CAR, stats be damned. But he has certainly regressed this year.
He could have thrown 4 TDs this game if he wanted. Hey, I'm just happy we're winning.
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You can't regress if your on IR the 1st 2 season and having Megatron bail you out.
Funny but true, also Joe Flacco is the worst.
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All of these guys are having up and down seasons, but at at the same time I still think these guys can lead a franchise deep into the playoffs and potentially win a Super Bowl, or rather make an offense good enough to compete for one (although I was never high on Stafford and that hasn't changed as of yet). I still like Josh Freeman the most even though he's not experiencing the success he had last year thus far. He's a young guy with a lot of games left ahead of him potentially. He should get better with time.
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Sam Bradford only has 3 passing touchdowns this year. Everyone defends him citing his lack of weapons but how do you expect a rookie who has arguably as poor of weapons with 4 tds.
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Funny but true, also Joe Flacco is the worst.
No, he's not. Nothing like a knee jerk reaction in these kind of threads, though. Mark Sanchez is literally hopeless.
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No, he's not. Nothing like a knee jerk reaction in these kind of threads, though. Mark Sanchez is literally hopeless.
Flacco sucks.

Get over it.
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Flacco doesn't suck. Take him out of the equation and I doubt the Ravens make the playoffs three straight years (something they never did), looking to do it for a fourth straight time.
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Flacco doesn't suck. Take him out of the equation and I doubt the Ravens make the playoffs three straight years (something they never did), looking to do it for a fourth straight time.
With that defense even Flacco could make the playoffs...

Doesn't mean he doesn't suck.
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Flacco sucks, he is terrible in the playoffs and he is terrible every time he is on SNF/MNF.
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Flacco just had his worst game as a pro so the backlash is gonna be pretty strong right now. I honestly thought the Jags did pretty well on defense, good pressure and they really locked up receivers.

He'll bounce back and be all right I hope.
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With that defense even Flacco could make the playoffs...

Doesn't mean he doesn't suck.
Defense doesn't just get you to the playoffs. And it won't do it for you three straight seasons in a row. The Ravens offense was built largely around the run before Flacco arrived. A great running game and great defense isn't going to get you to the playoffs year in and year out. Especially in this day of free agency, and especially since offenses have an advantage against defenses. Who was the best quarterback that franchise has had before Flacco? I'd say it was maybe, maybe Steve Mcnair for that one year in 2006. But that's it. Like I said, I doubt the Ravens make it to the playoffs three straight years without him, a decent starter in this league.
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Flacco just had his worst game as a pro so the backlash is gonna be pretty strong right now. I honestly thought the Jags did pretty well on defense, good pressure and they really locked up receivers.

He'll bounce back and be all right I hope.
This is why I said I give my hat to the Jacksonville defense tonight. They took away the Ravens receivers and shut Ray Rice down for the most part. Flacco went up against a defense that has been severely underrated this year.
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Defense doesn't just get you to the playoffs. And it won't do it for you three straight seasons in a row. The Ravens offense was built largely around the run before Flacco arrived. A great running game and great defense isn't going to get you to the playoffs year in and year out. Especially in this day of free agency, and especially since offenses have an advantage against defenses. Who was the best quarterback that franchise has had before Flacco? I'd say it was maybe, maybe Steve Mcnair for that one year in 2006. But that's it. Like I said, I doubt the Ravens make it to the playoffs three straight years without him, a decent starter in this league.
Just because the franchise had historically terrible QB's doesn't mean they should settler for a mediocre one.
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Honestly, i'd take Sanchez over Flacco. You can dink and dunk your way with Sanchez and i'll take his clutch play over just about anyone else on this list. He may look sloppy and downright ugly at times, but there's no denying that another guy shows up when they need a late drive. Freeman has looked terrible this year. Flacco hasn't been overly impressive either, despite the fact that in that offense he should look a lot better than he does. The jury is out on Bradford, i'm just afraid we may never see his full potential, being stuck on that shithole in St. Louis
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Flacco sucks.

Get over it.
I'm not a Flacco apologist, I just think Sanchez is worse.
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