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Old 11-30-2010, 07:54 PM    (permalink
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Good. I hope they scares you into thinking logically.
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Good. I hope they scares you into thinking logically.
So if the Redskins were to be in a crap NFC East and go 8-8. And my Rams went 10-6, but lost to the Seahawks at 11-5. And the Packers and Falcons were at 11-5 as wild card winners. Would u be agaist it so much then? I said I do feel bad that there will prolly be better teams left out when the NFC West wins it. But hey, its not fair UConn is going to a BCS game and Boise State is not. Right now we are arguing who gets killed by the Saints. Leave our division alone.
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Why would you even consider changing the playoff rules to deal with a hypothetical situation that probably won't even happen?
People are watching Goodell do this and figure it's just going to keep happening?
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:03 AM    (permalink
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So if the Redskins were to be in a crap NFC East and go 8-8. And my Rams went 10-6, but lost to the Seahawks at 11-5. And the Packers and Falcons were at 11-5 as wild card winners. Would u be agaist it so much then? I said I do feel bad that there will prolly be better teams left out when the NFC West wins it. But hey, its not fair UConn is going to a BCS game and Boise State is not. Right now we are arguing who gets killed by the Saints. Leave our division alone.
I think it's more unfair to the 1 or 2 seed who gets the play the Saints after a glorified bye. It takes away from the bye they earned. The Saints will be getting a tune up game basically. But I agree kicking them out of the playoffs is going too far. They should just re-seed it on record. Weak division winners happen and it's cyclical. I forget their record but the Bucs 3 years ago were an awfully week division winner. It's because of the unbalanced schedule.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:17 AM    (permalink
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Expanding the playoffs, and eliminating the bye week is ideal I think. How many times have you seen that team come into a game flat and get knocked off by a team full of confidence from winning in the wild card round, as well playing competitive football at the end of the season to earn the wild card.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:33 AM    (permalink
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Expanding the playoffs, and eliminating the bye week is ideal I think. How many times have you seen that team come into a game flat and get knocked off by a team full of confidence from winning in the wild card round, as well playing competitive football at the end of the season to earn the wild card.
I only happened to the Chargers last year...

Plus expanding the playoffs would only make it more likely for ****** teams to get in. The NBA and NHL have overly expansive playoffs with half the league getting in where even teams with losing records get in.

I like the current 6 and 6 set up. I do however think seeding should be done by overall record...we could potentially see it this year where the top two teams in the AFC come from the East...one would get a bye week while the other is a 5 seed? Lame....
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So if the Redskins were to be in a crap NFC East and go 8-8. And my Rams went 10-6, but lost to the Seahawks at 11-5. And the Packers and Falcons were at 11-5 as wild card winners. Would u be agaist it so much then? I said I do feel bad that there will prolly be better teams left out when the NFC West wins it. But hey, its not fair UConn is going to a BCS game and Boise State is not. Right now we are arguing who gets killed by the Saints. Leave our division alone.
I would be against it because i want my team in the playoffs. The difference is i wouldn't think i was unbiased nor would i try to seem reasonable with some ridiculous compromise... i would sit back and hope the NFL continued being stupid and not say anything realizing everything i would say would be homer retardation. If the NFL did end up doing away with the ******** divisional winner system... in this hypothetical, i would be annoyed but i would recognize the fairness in the simpler record based system.
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I don't understand why winning the division has to do with outside record in the first place. Maybe what should happen is that division record will guarantee you win the division and guarantee a playoff spot, but overall record determines seeding. So a 12-4 team that goes 2-4 in the division would probably be the wildcard, but they would be seeded higher. A 9-7 team that goes 6-0 in the division is guaranteed a playoff spot, but gets a low seed.

Just an idea, I haven't really thought through whether I would like it.
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I don't understand why winning the division has to do with outside record in the first place. Maybe what should happen is that division record will guarantee you win the division and guarantee a playoff spot, but overall record determines seeding. So a 12-4 team that goes 2-4 in the division would probably be the wildcard, but they would be seeded higher. A 9-7 team that goes 6-0 in the division is guaranteed a playoff spot, but gets a low seed.

Just an idea, I haven't really thought through whether I would like it.
Was about to post the same thing. Let the division's automatic birth go to the DIVISION winner. It would add even more to the divisional rivalries, even if it means that some years an 8-8 Chargers team will get in over a 9-7 Broncos team.
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What's your reasoning?

The Bucs beat the Rams on a pass with 10 seconds left IN Tampa Bay.

The Rams BEAT the Redskins.

Not that much worse, now are we?
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What's your reasoning?

The Bucs beat the Rams on a pass with 10 seconds left IN Tampa Bay.

The Rams BEAT the Redskins.

Not that much worse, now are we?


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Was about to post the same thing. Let the division's automatic birth go to the DIVISION winner. It would add even more to the divisional rivalries, even if it means that some years an 8-8 Chargers team will get in over a 9-7 Broncos team.
Teams would need to play 3 games against each opponent in its division.
Otherwise 6 games have a huge impact and the other ones much less. In NFC West, AFC South the other 10 don't matter at all. So teams would treat it like a game where its clinched at the end.

Seawaks would have no incentive to try against Bucs in week 16. Whereas that game could be the difference between making a wild card spot for the Bucs. That is why it wouldn't work. I guess it might if you put all the none division games in the first half.

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Yeah, I'm well aware that winning is winning. IF STL had the TE/WRs that TB had, then they'd be in the same position.
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Yeah, I'm well aware that winning is winning. IF STL had the TE/WRs that TB had, then they'd be in the same position.
Next year they'll have real weapons.
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And we'll have double the wins ( not of TB, but STL )!
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