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Old 12-03-2010, 10:57 AM    (permalink
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Old 12-03-2010, 11:02 AM    (permalink
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I agree you can develop quicker these days, but Tebow was WAY behind a lot of these guys when it came to developing in college. Tebow basically needed to be broken down and started from scratch. And we still don't know how far thats come because he only plays in gadget plays.
Mechanically, yes. Schematically, though? McDaniels basically built his passing game around Urban Meyer's Florida offense.

Of course, an NFL is harder is going to be much more difficult and condensed than a college playbook, but I don't think the jump is as difficult as people are making it out to be.
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I'd appreciate it if you guys didn't say VY's name around me. I'm still in mourning...

Oh boy...here come the water works...
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I'd appreciate it if you guys didn't say VY's name around me. I'm still in mourning.
You could have had Cutler.
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Oh boy...here come the water works...
Give us Moss back!!!!!!
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exactly. i think there's a difference between tim tebow or vince young 'needing' three years, and sam bradford 'needing' three years.
Tebow doesn't have the athletic advantages that Young had, and while Young's mechanics weren't good, his release wasn't so terribly slow.

In that offense, you have to have a quick release otherwise the DBs will eat you alive. It's all based on timing.

Another thing is that Tebow wasn't drafted to be the starter in any short-term stretch of time. They have Orton and they like Orton a ton. That team wants to win, and the coaching staff doesn't want to confuse the lockerroom on who the QB of the team is.

What they're doing is smart. Just because they're not winning doesn't mean that you throw the guy you've been protecting into the fire because the fans are mad. They have to do what's best for Tim Tebow, and we should all respect that considering McDaniels's track record with developing QBs.
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Weis has helped Cassel's development more than McDaniels.
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I didn't hate Tebow before and now I really do, so life is funny that way.
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I don't hate him anymore either. I've shifted my hate to Cam Newton, who I have to hear about too often nowadays.

I like Tebow now.
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but yes, i think the idea is that three years for tebow was the expected timeframe to fix the structural issues (as many people expected it to take a similar amount of time to fix vince as a passer).
I think this is a big point. That was the view on Vince and by playing him early they have basically made no progress on his mechanics. By playing him they have sort of forced him to fall into his old ways instead of being able to consistently practice and condition his body to the new mechanics.

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