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Old 12-04-2010, 04:26 PM    (permalink
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But that proves my point though. We're giving them some kind of draft curve by complimenting them for not Fing up the pick.

That ignores the fact that it was still a bad pick. You don't take a limited MIKE #8 overall. This isn't Patrick Willis we're talking about. This was a flawed player. I honestly had him graded as a late 1st/possibly 2nd round guy.

It was still a reach.
At this point I think we realize the Raiders get their own curve for rating 1st rounders.
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At this point I think we realize the Raiders get their own curve for rating 1st rounders.
"Umm.. excuse me, what is this X category on our draft cheat-sheet that all our prospects are ordered by?" "It's 40 time with size taken into account." "Oh.. cool.. so we use that as an evaluation tool?" "Um.. we use that to decide who we draft. Newb."
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Am I the only one that remembers the McClain pick being nearly universally loved at the time by everyone here?
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Old 12-04-2010, 06:11 PM    (permalink
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Am I the only one that remembers the McClain pick being nearly universally loved at the time by everyone here?
I liked him in the middle of the first. Thought he'd be a solid 3-4 thumper ILB. Was a little surprised when the Raiders took him so high, but I thought they would switch to a 3-4 bringing in Wimbley and Groves to play OLB, and move Kelly and Seymour to DE.

But they didn't....and I question that. They have the personnel to have a solid 3-4 front 7, but they haven't.
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They have the personnel to have a solid 3-4 front 7, but they haven't.
They won't. Al Davis is not a fan and Rob Ryan failed with it recently.
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Old 12-04-2010, 07:29 PM    (permalink
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Another example that there's no such thing as a 'safe' pick in the NFL Draft.
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I liked him in the middle of the first. Thought he'd be a solid 3-4 thumper ILB. Was a little surprised when the Raiders took him so high, but I thought they would switch to a 3-4 bringing in Wimbley and Groves to play OLB, and move Kelly and Seymour to DE.

But they didn't....and I question that. They have the personnel to have a solid 3-4 front 7, but they haven't.
That's sort of similar to what the Ravens are going through. We do still use a 3-4 alignment, but the philosophy is that of a cover 2. I'd much rather be in Oakland's situation.

EDIT - Well, on their defensive scheme at least.

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Old 12-05-2010, 10:25 AM    (permalink
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I'm not going to pretend I have any medical background or any sort of base knowledge, at all, when it comes to arthritis other than it makes old people walk funny... sooo... **** THAT SUCKS. CAREER OVER BRO. HAHAHA AL DAVIS.
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They said during the game McCalin has tendinitis not arthritis, he's playing and he has been playing well.
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I wish I had arthritis like McClain.
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Well that was just stupid by Sproles... you just took a dump off pass in the middle of the defense and you want to start dancing? Either get down field or get down, especially at your size!

Nice play by Rolando though!

Sad news, hopefully it is just your everyday pain management type of arthritis and not the debilitating type that would end his career or at best seriously limit it.

Really like him as a player. Smart, hard working and disciplined, almost your anti-Raider. I was one of the few who liked both Spikes and McClain because both are very similar players that kind of buck the trend by not being freakish athletes.
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Well that was just stupid by Sproles... you just took a dump off pass in the middle of the defense and you want to start dancing? Either get down field or get down, especially at your size!

Nice play by Rolando though!

Sad news, hopefully it is just your everyday pain management type of arthritis and not the debilitating type that would end his career or at best seriously limit it.

Really like him as a player. Smart, hard working and disciplined, almost your anti-Raider. I was one of the few who liked both Spikes and McClain because both are very similar players that kind of buck the trend by not being freakish athletes.
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They said during the game McCalin has tendinitis not arthritis, he's playing and he has been playing well.
Tendinitis not arthritis. It was probably Tom Cable getting his words mixed up and telling reporters about the injury.
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Good news there, though tendinitis can be just as bad, just see what it did to Penny Hardaway. Though with rest and recovery can be managed pretty effectively.
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Looked great out there today. He is improving every week it seems like
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Dude I have tendinitis and let me tell you that **** sucks.
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If that was him hobbled out there today, then I'm not terribly worried. Hopefully it's not going to be a degenerative condition, because no matter how you feel about McClain's value in regards to the draft, I've seen his value on the field when he's playing confidently, and it's far from insignificant.
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Other link went out, this video is way better. Chargers fans were pissed.

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That's awesome. I don't know how anyone could think that's an illegal hit.
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Sproles wasn't in a defenseless position, and McClain didn't lead with his head, nor attack the head of the ball carrier.

McClain lowered his shoulder and was totally committed to delivering the hit with his shoulder. Clean hit. Nice play.
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Yeah, didn't look to be a problem yesterday. Hopefully it's a non-issue.
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