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Old 12-06-2010, 01:34 PM    (permalink
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i hope you guys understand; he's made enough money to never care again. If he had a chip on his shoulder, or cared about showing people. He would have showed his HC, teammates, and the fanbase to never quit on him, but he hasn't because he doesn't care.
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I think you are all too quick to assume that he'll play harder for a contender, or that he's even in good enough shape to play. While I hate Shanny this is the guy who took a month to pass a test that had him running a couple sprints with breaks between. This is the guy who skipped the offseason because he hated the 3-4 then at the start of the season said he kind of liked it, then went back to not wanting to play anymore.
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STRIP, what did you think of Haynesworth in 09 prior to Shanny and the drama about the 3-4?
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I think the Titans will bring him back this offseason. We need him and he needs us. Jovan Haye can suck one. He needs to go to Chicago with all the other Vandy players.
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STRIP, what did you think of Haynesworth in 09 prior to Shanny and the drama about the 3-4?
Tough to say off that one year. He missed like a quarter of the year and was constantly hurt after plays when IMO he was more tired that hurt. With that said there were still several plays where he could shove 2 o-lineman into the QB and look even better than Haloti Ngata. Problem is Ngata plays at a high level every single play, Albert gives you a flash of greatness one every 25 plays. While I do believe he's in much better shape to play more than Shanny plays him, he isn't an every down player in terms of consistent motor. I know he was a beast in 08 in Tennessee, but even at the start of last season when everyone was hyped up I didn't see that first step explosion that he displayed with the Titans. I know he's had knee problems and such. Honestly he is just virtually uncoachable. With Zorn he thought Zorn was too much of a push over and didn't respect him. With Shanny he was too strict. I honestly don't know what goes through Albert's mind. Instead of players having to adjust to the coach it seems like Albert wants a coach to adjust to his ways. I don't know maybe someone like Caldwell would suit his personality better.
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Put him in our rotation with Seymour, Kelly, Henderson and Bryant. Would only improve an already improving defense
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Tough to say off that one year. He missed like a quarter of the year and was constantly hurt after plays when IMO he was more tired that hurt. With that said there were still several plays where he could shove 2 o-lineman into the QB and look even better than Haloti Ngata. Problem is Ngata plays at a high level every single play, Albert gives you a flash of greatness one every 25 plays. While I do believe he's in much better shape to play more than Shanny plays him, he isn't an every down player in terms of consistent motor. I know he was a beast in 08 in Tennessee, but even at the start of last season when everyone was hyped up I didn't see that first step explosion that he displayed with the Titans. I know he's had knee problems and such. Honestly he is just virtually uncoachable. With Zorn he thought Zorn was too much of a push over and didn't respect him. With Shanny he was too strict. I honestly don't know what goes through Albert's mind. Instead of players having to adjust to the coach it seems like Albert wants a coach to adjust to his ways. I don't know maybe someone like Caldwell would suit his personality better.
Doubtful, Caldwell is a breathing traffic cone on the sidelines.

I'd forgotten about his attitude towards Zorn. That is a good point. What a frustrating player.
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I'm still all for the Bears taking a shot at him. No one is going to touch that contract, so he should clear waivers....if we sign him to a one year deal and throw him in our rotation, I'd be game.
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Yeah, i don't understand why the Redskins would wanna do him the favor of cutting him. Is the four paychecks really worth giving this guy another shot, and possibly improving a playoff contender? I say let him rot on the sideline, for all the money they've given him, the least they could do is finish ruining his career.
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Yeah, i don't understand why the Redskins would wanna do him the favor of cutting him. Is the four paychecks really worth giving this guy another shot, and possibly improving a playoff contender? I say let him rot on the sideline, for all the money they've given him, the least they could do is finish ruining his career.
Yup and assuming he does clear waivers he's probably more inclined to sign with the Giants or Eagles if they want him just to show the Skins they are making a mistake.
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Yeah, i don't understand why the Redskins would wanna do him the favor of cutting him. Is the four paychecks really worth giving this guy another shot, and possibly improving a playoff contender? I say let him rot on the sideline, for all the money they've given him, the least they could do is finish ruining his career.
Wait, the Redskins are at fault for ruining his career?
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Albert has zero heart and zero work ethic. Be careful what you wish for...

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Good to see Daniels call him out.

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Haynesworth isn't going to give any effort ever again in his career unless he gets a massive gambling debt or has too many child support checks to write. He's pretty much said as much himself. Here's a post from a few weeks ago that pretty much sums up his attitude:

Haynesworth: "I'm not good enough to play in a 3-4"

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Defensive coordinator Jim Haslett said there came a point when the defense had to punt.

“Trying to get him to do the 3-4 stuff was trying to get a square peg into a round hole,” Haslett said. “We tried to force the issue, and it hasn’t worked out the way that we would like. I still think he can do it because he’s a good athlete and he is athletic and smart and tough enough to do it.”

So what does Haynesworth have as his goal for the rest of the season?

“Keep playing and help the teammates, and make plays and I guess get noticed more,” he said, “so people will say I’m not a bust or whatever.”

Once the session was done, Haynesworth was asked if he’ll speak again next week.

“What is this? Week 8?” he said as he walked away from the podium. “I’ll see you at Week 16.”
If you don't want to be "a bust or whatever" maybe you should actually try to learn the defense
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Rod Marinelli with Haynesworth would be kinda nice.
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Haha you got to love a guy who tells his coach that instead of teaching him the defense they should be focusing on what he wants. Sounds like a good team plan Albert! That's like Josh Nesbitt telling Paul Johnson that they should stop practicing the option and focus on the deep passing game because that's what he likes most.
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He wouldn't last two days with Rod.

Haynesworth would shut down like he has in Washington. This guy wants to get coddled. And that ain't happening.
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I'm glad the Jags stay away from bums like Haynesworth.
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Even though I think Mike Shanahan was just as responsible for the Haynesworth situation this year, I don't want this guy on the Pats.
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It's amazing that fans excuse make for Haynesworth by blaming Shanahan. Not getting along with a coach is no excuse for quitting on teammates and fans. It's amazing the way many fans are so mesmerized by some athletes that they can't see faults with anything that athlete does.
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Haynesworth right now is Randy Moss with the Raiders. ****** situation all around and his personality is not one that is going to try in that situation. At the same time if you put him in the right situation(Colts, Bears or Giants sounds about right) then he can flip the switch and be a beast still.

If they do cut him it will be very interesting to watch how he responds and what teams go for him. He is far too talented to not find a home but also needs the right situation and a team that isn't going to give him everything he wants. Contract also needs to basically be incentives and the minimum.
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I was willing to give a third rounder for him after the Skins paid that huge roster bonus earlier this year. I'd certainly be willing to give him a two year contract right now. Something like 2 million for the remainder of this year and 4 million next year with performance incentives that would top out at a cool 12 million.

He absolutely NEEDS to be next to Julius Peppers. I think he'd even be relatively happy as a Bear. We run a 4-3, we have a good supporting cast for him, and we're a major market where he could make HUGE endorsement cash if he plays well. I think he'd make our D line just plain unfair.
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After reading more stuff about Haynesworth....yuck. No thanks.

I'm off the bandwagon.
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