College Gameday Thread: Bowl Games - Page 56

bearsfan_51 · 01-01-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bengals78

Do you know what an average is????
When Wisconsin runs it up the middle, they cant be stopped. They dont need 5 they need 2.

You = ass

What does it matter what the average is? You don't get to do it 8 times and then divide.

SickwithIt1010 · 01-01-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

The Badgers ran the ball 8 times on that drive. Only one of those times was it for more than 5 yards.

You = Wrong.

2nd and Goal at TCU 4
Montee Ball rush for 4 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.

1st and Goal at TCU 8
John Clay rush for 4 yards to the TCU 4.

3rd and 1 at TCU 10
John Clay rush for 2 yards to the TCU 8 for a 1ST down.

2nd and 5 at TCU 14
John Clay rush for 4 yards to the TCU 10.

1st and 10 at TCU 19
John Clay rush for 5 yards to the TCU 14.

3rd and 6 at TCU 29
Scott Tolzien pass complete to Lance Kendricks for 10 yards to the TCU 19 for a 1ST down.

2nd and 10 at TCU 33
Montee Ball rush for 4 yards to the TCU 29.

1st and 10 at TCU 33
Montee Ball rush for no gain to the TCU 33.

1st and 10 at TCU 33
Timeout WISCONSIN, clock 6:31.

1st and 10 at WIS 37
John Clay rush for 30 yards to the TCU 33 for a 1ST down.

1st and 10 at WIS 23
John Clay rush for 14 yards to the Wisc 37 for a 1ST down.

YOU= Wrong sir.

ElectricEye · 01-01-2011, 07:09 PM

Gary Patterson is a class act.

jrdrylie · 01-01-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

The Badgers ran the ball 8 times on that drive. Only one of those times was it for more than 5 yards.

You = Wrong.

First run was 14 yards. Second run was 30 yards. Fourth run was 5 yards.

You = Wrong

Bengals78 · 01-01-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

2nd and Goal at TCU 4
Montee Ball rush for 4 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.

1st and Goal at TCU 8
John Clay rush for 4 yards to the TCU 4.

3rd and 1 at TCU 10
John Clay rush for 2 yards to the TCU 8 for a 1ST down.

2nd and 5 at TCU 14
John Clay rush for 4 yards to the TCU 10.

1st and 10 at TCU 19
John Clay rush for 5 yards to the TCU 14.

3rd and 6 at TCU 29
Scott Tolzien pass complete to Lance Kendricks for 10 yards to the TCU 19 for a 1ST down.

2nd and 10 at TCU 33
Montee Ball rush for 4 yards to the TCU 29.

1st and 10 at TCU 33
Montee Ball rush for no gain to the TCU 33.

1st and 10 at TCU 33
Timeout WISCONSIN, clock 6:31.

1st and 10 at WIS 37
John Clay rush for 30 yards to the TCU 33 for a 1ST down.

1st and 10 at WIS 23
John Clay rush for 14 yards to the Wisc 37 for a 1ST down.

YOU= Wrong sir.

You = winner

bearsfan_51 · 01-01-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

2nd and Goal at TCU 4
Montee Ball rush for 4 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.

1st and Goal at TCU 8
John Clay rush for 4 yards to the TCU 4.

3rd and 1 at TCU 10
John Clay rush for 2 yards to the TCU 8 for a 1ST down.

2nd and 5 at TCU 14
John Clay rush for 4 yards to the TCU 10.

1st and 10 at TCU 19
John Clay rush for 5 yards to the TCU 14.

3rd and 6 at TCU 29
Scott Tolzien pass complete to Lance Kendricks for 10 yards to the TCU 19 for a 1ST down.

2nd and 10 at TCU 33
Montee Ball rush for 4 yards to the TCU 29.

1st and 10 at TCU 33
Montee Ball rush for no gain to the TCU 33.

1st and 10 at TCU 33
Timeout WISCONSIN, clock 6:31.

1st and 10 at WIS 37
John Clay rush for 30 yards to the TCU 33 for a 1ST down.

1st and 10 at WIS 23
John Clay rush for 14 yards to the Wisc 37 for a 1ST down.

YOU= Wrong sir.

Ok, 2 out of 9, huge difference. Gamecast didn't show the first play for whatever reason.

Bengals78 · 01-01-2011, 07:11 PM

And on top of that only 1 run, the toss, would not have netted the 2 point conversion as well

SickwithIt1010 · 01-01-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Ok, 2 out of 9, huge difference. Gamecast didn't show the first play for whatever reason.

it was....when you make a statement....might as well make it right?

Babylon · 01-01-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Miaoww

He stares down his receiver every time. Kid has no shot in the pros.

Seems like a theme in that conferance although i wouldnt mind Ricky Stanzi on my team.

jrdrylie · 01-01-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

What does it matter what the average is? You don't get to do it 8 times and then divide.

True, they don't get to do it 8 times. But of the 9 times they ran the ball on the drive (not 8 times), 7 would have been long enough to get the two-point conversion.

Babylon · 01-01-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LizardState

1st down & TCU secures the win!!!! Giantkillers win again!

Patterson for Coach ot Yr!!!!

Undefeated & screwed, a stiff middle finger to the BCS you elitist pigfuckers!!! The college FB playoff argument lives on!

You're on a roll today, break out the CR.

Babylon · 01-01-2011, 07:14 PM

What was the final count on the big-10 today 0-5? ouch.

bearsfan_51 · 01-01-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jrdrylie

True, they don't get to do it 8 times. But of the 9 times they ran the ball on the drive (not 8 times), 7 would have been long enough to get the two-point conversion.

It's a lot different to get 3+ yards from the 3 yard line than from the middle of the field. There's a reason teams don't run the ball frequently when going for two.

Miaoww · 01-01-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Babylon

Seems like a theme in that conferance although i wouldnt mind Ricky Stanzi on my team.

Stanzi's a better player. From what I've seen that is. Wouldn't take him before the 3rd though.

Bengals78 · 01-01-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

It's a lot different to get 3+ yards from the 3 yard line than from the middle of the field. There's a reason teams don't run the ball frequently when going for two.

Dude Wisconsin was still getting 3-4 yards when they stacked the box. TCU couldnt stop the power run all game. POWER RUN. Not tosses or sweeps but power running was netting huge gains. I dont think they lost yards on a power run all game.

RealityCheck · 01-01-2011, 07:17 PM

Tcu Can't Be In Da Natnl Championshp Game Bcuz They Didnt Play A Real Schedule And Wus Get Killd By A Bcs Conf Team!!!21!1111111

Suck It Bcs, Suck It.

SickwithIt1010 · 01-01-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RealityCheck

Tcu Can't Be In Da Natnl Championshp Game Bcuz They Didnt Play A Real Schedule And Wus Get Killd By A Bcs Conf Team!!!21!1111111

Suck It Bcs, Suck It.

bahaha, touche sir.

I was rooting for UW....but that was good.

bearsfan_51 · 01-01-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bengals78

Dude Wisconsin was still getting 3-4 yards when they stacked the box. TCU couldnt stop the power run all game. POWER RUN. Not tosses or sweeps but power running was netting huge gains. I dont think they lost yards on a power run all game.

It's not the same. Take a breath and think about it for a second.

The end zone is 10 yards deep, add three yards and that's all they have to cover. There is NO concern for a deep pass, long run, etc. Even if TCU was playing all 11 of their players 10 yards off the ball, at least some of them are going to have deep assignment on every single play, which means that their first movement isn't going to be looking forward. There's no concern for that when you're on the goal-line. That's why teams are more inclined to pass. Context matters.

Bengals78 · 01-01-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

It's not the same. Take a breath and think about it for a second.

The end zone is 10 yards deep, add three yards and that's all they have to cover. There is NO concern for a deep pass, long run, etc. Even if TCU was playing all 11 of their players 10 yards off the ball, at least some of them are going to have deep assignment on every single play. There's no concern for that when you're on the goal-line. That's why teams are more inclined to pass. Context matters.

You are factoring that in too much. Fact is, when lined up and the ball is pounded, TCU could not stop Wisconsin. Hell the RB was usually 2 yards deep before he got hit.
If your QB was Tolzien and you had Clay, Ball, White, Carimi and Moffitt how do you NOT run the ball?

JoeJoeBrown · 01-01-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RealityCheck

Tcu Can't Be In Da Natnl Championshp Game Bcuz They Didnt Play A Real Schedule And Wus Get Killd By A Bcs Conf Team!!!21!1111111

Suck It Bcs, Suck It.

The B1G conference pooped down their leg today. Thankfully there is the Big12.

jrdrylie · 01-01-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

It's not the same. Take a breath and think about it for a second.

The end zone is 10 yards deep, add three yards and that's all they have to cover. There is NO concern for a deep pass, long run, etc. Even if TCU was playing all 11 of their players 10 yards off the ball, at least some of them are going to have deep assignment on every single play, which means that there first movement isn't going to be looking forward. There's no concern for that when you're on the goal-line. That's why teams are more inclined to pass. Context matters.

I'll give you some context. Wisconsin just dominated TCU with the run on that drive. Wisconsin's pass game and pass protection has sucked the entire game. Taking all that into context, the chances were much better they get it by running than by passing.

ElectricEye · 01-01-2011, 07:25 PM

Frazer is terrible. Won't be much of a game tonight IMO. Rooting for UConn, but they don't have much of a chance.

yodapoop · 01-01-2011, 07:26 PM

Listen if TCU was playing any1 else, I would be estatic they won cuz I am a Badger fan. Um, yeah, I don't know why the hell we didn't run on the 2-pointer, Clay shoulda been used more IMO, bad clock management, and the two bad timeouts they had to throw away. So, uh great for TCU, hope this helps expose the tramashamockery the BCS is and if we don't get a playoff system, we should at least get a plus-1 game or something.

bearsfan_51 · 01-01-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jrdrylie

I'll give you some context. Wisconsin just dominated TCU with the run on that drive. Wisconsin's pass game and pass protection has sucked the entire game. Taking all that into context, the chances were much better they get it by running than by passing.

Since everyone seems so concerned about the average run gain on that drive, it's worth pointing out that the one pass they attempted gained more than the run average. So using that logic, the pass was more effective than the run on that drive.

Bengals78 · 01-01-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Since everyone seems so concerned about the average run gain on that drive, it's worth pointing out that the one pass they attempted gained more than the run average. So using that logic, the pass was more effective than the run on that drive.

YOU brought up the drive. We were speaking about the entire game.
If you are so dead set on throwing run the PA and roll out.