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Old 12-14-2010, 11:34 AM    (permalink
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Rumor in Carolina is that Smith had a meeting with slave owner Jerry Richardson to put in for a trade.

What would you pay?
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What is his contract like right now?

Probably a 4th
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Hard to know. 3rd rounder, maybe 3rd and 4th or 5th depending on the team.

He has proven himself but not lately and is 31 years old.
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I said a few years ago that Smith would have a shorter career arc because of his size and how he plays and I still believe that. He still has the ability and (most importantly) the fire. The main reason his production is down this year is Clausen, but I do think he's lost a step and his hands aren't great anymore. I would take a 3rd and be happy with it
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Might as well start ordering your Steve Smith Redskins jerseys now.
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With the injuries we've had at WR.....I wonder....
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I said a few years ago that Smith would have a shorter career arc because of his size and how he plays and I still believe that. He still has the ability and (most importantly) the fire. The main reason his production is down this year is Clausen, but I do think he's lost a step and his hands aren't great anymore. I would take a 3rd and be happy with it
Yup, he's like Allen Iverson in that his size does not match up well with his playing style whatsoever. His regression is likely to be very, very rapid. I honestly wouldn't give up any more than a fifth rounder and definitely wouldn't sign him to a lengthy and/or expensive extension.
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Wow, he fell off that hard this year?

I haven't seen any Carolina games this year other than the time we slapped them around.
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I've been such a huge fan of Smith throughout his career and I think he's one of the most explosive and dynamic players of the past decade, but it's clear to see when watching him that he doesn't quite have the burst and the overall strength he once had. I remember watching 5'9 Steve Smith break 3 tackles on his way to the end zone regularly. Hell, the guy made Jake Delhomme look like a Pro Bowler for a few years. 31 isnt THAT old, but for a guy his size who plays the game like he does, you can tell he isn't what he once was. Still, Id imagine some team would give up a conditional 4th for him or something.
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Wow, he fell off that hard this year?

I haven't seen any Carolina games this year other than the time we slapped them around.
Nobody can fairly say he fell off because of what he's had to go through at QB. Maybe he does decline rapidly, but I think he's worth a risk to a WR needy team. I also know he's not the player he used to be but he could have produced alot more with a solid QB.



I would be up for a 4th if I needed a WR badly. I think Colt McCoy could use someone like him but Smith probably wants a winner at this point so I guess the Rams make some sense.
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He's not finished. I think if you put him on a team with a real quarterback he can be dynamic again next season and still be productive for 2, maybe 3 more years. But as a true #1 option like he was at his best I think the clock is ticking and if he stays in Carolina, it may have already struck 12
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id like him on the bears then again we prolly have enough people of that style
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Nobody can fairly say he fell off because of what he's had to go through at QB. Maybe he does decline rapidly, but I think he's worth a risk to a WR needy team. I also know he's not the player he used to be but he could have produced alot more with a solid QB.



I would be up for a 4th if I needed a WR badly. I think Colt McCoy could use someone like him but Smith probably wants a winner at this point so I guess the Rams make some sense.
At the same time, a WR needy team can't think that Smith will be the cure all by himself. They need to make sure they add some young blood into the talent pool as well.

Gene Smith did it with the defensive line in Jacksonville. He signed Aaron Kampman in free agency, but still drafted four or five defensive linemen in the draft. You can't rely on one aging veteran to be your savior, and teams do that far too often.
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A vet WR like this is exactly what Oakland needs. Deep threat for us that is still better than all the WRs we have and will be cheap. Probably be a 4th and 5th or a pick that depends on how he plays at his new team. I'd make the move
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Wow, he fell off that hard this year?

I haven't seen any Carolina games this year other than the time we slapped them around.
That would be to many on 1 team. And I'm sure your WR will be fine by next year.


Panthers are going to have to start from scratch so why not ship him out and get picks.
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Oakland doesn't need WRs. They need a quarterback.

Murphy, Miller, and Ford and McFadden out of the backfield are some good weapons. They just need a qb who can deliver the ball to them consistently and some additions to the oline.
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I'd love for the Patriots to give a fourth or a fifth rounder for him. Him and Branch outside, Welker in the slot and Gronkowski + random RB would be sexy as hell.
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FWIW here are Smith's stats in games where he played with Matt Moore for more than a half:

Week 1 5 rec 75 yards 1 TD
Week 2 3 rec 66 yards 1 TD
Week 7 4 rec 50 yards
Week 8 9 rec 85 yards

Still not what you normally expect out of him, though Moore was awful this year as well. I'm pretty sure a few of Moore's picks came from forcing Smith the ball, as did Clausen's first (which then caused him to go into a shell and never throw the ball down field the rest of the year). Overall, Smith's production really suffers when he plays with a QB who can't stretch the field vertically. He had similar issues with David Carr, even though Carr was able to find Andre Johnson in Houston
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49ers can always use another good vet.
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Mushin Muhammed would probably be in his ear telling him to stay the hell away from Chicago.
Well Muhsin also had ******* grossman throwing the ball
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Money is on the Patriots. They have plenty of picks to shed.
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