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Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator
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Give the ball to Jamaal Charles more and everything will be fine.
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ESPN’s Chris Mortensen was talking about McDaniels maybe coming back for his work mentoring Cassel, but Haley snubbed him for the handshake, so who knows.
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If we had to keep one, I'd want to keep Rac.

I'm not so much bothered with Weis leaving, but if he does, we'd need an A+ coordinator to replace him. McDaniels is familiar with the system and with Cassel. Seems like a good match on paper.
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McDaniels wanted Cassel more than Cutler and settled for Teborton
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With the way Cassel played this year does it make McDaniels look better that he wanted him over Cutler?
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This makes no sense at all, I would understand leaving to be the Gator's HC but why leave your job as an NFL OC to be a college OC???
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With the way Cassel played this year does it make McDaniels look better that he wanted him over Cutler?
I really think it is a testament to both of them, but McDaniels defiantly knew the potential that could be with Cassel
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This makes no sense at all, I would understand leaving to be the Gator's HC but why leave your job as an NFL OC to be a college OC???
my guess is there were some issues with him and Haley that could'nt be resolved
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Rumor is that Haley and Weis haven't seen eye to eye about anything this year, so it isn't all that surprising. Haley runs this team, not Weis.
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Rumor is that Haley and Weis haven't seen eye to eye about anything this year, so it isn't all that surprising. Haley runs this team, not Weis.
That's true but you have to credit Weis for helping Cassel out. This could be a big problem for you next year when you're going to face a much tougher schedule.
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It's never a GOOD thing to lose a coordinator who has helped you, it just depends who you get to replace said coordinator. If we got a great offensive mind who is familiar with the system and the quarterback, I'm all for it.

I was not a fan of Weis and his erratic playcalling at the beginning of the year. It has gotten better, but I don't like a lot of the stuff I'm hearing about him and how he reacts to certain things and his relationship with Haley.

At this point I think it's probably a good thing, but it all hinges on who we're able to hire to replace him. We either stay in house (and promote Maurice Carthon) or go after a big name OC (Josh McDaniels is the only one I can think of off the top of my head) to replace Weis.
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I've been doing some calls/emailing on this. Haley was doing more and more the last few weeks in the early week game plan implementing. Also, most of the credit of for the progression of Cassel is being directed towards Nick Sirianni, an offensive quality control coach. The relationship those two have has grown quite a bit.
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This makes no sense at all, I would understand leaving to be the Gator's HC but why leave your job as an NFL OC to be a college OC???
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/report...r-gators-29384

this is the article from sportsbybrooks.com (love his site BTW. If you haven't bookmarked it yet, then you need to. He breaks alot of stories on twitter 1st and gets none of the credit, usually) Brooks makes it sound like Weis wasn't going to be the OC in KC next year, anyway. Meaning, he may have been fired after the playoffs. Maybe Weis saw the writing on the wall and decided to take another job (with the fastest route to a HC position) as an OC at a top college program. I guess he saves alittle face with most fans never knowing he was going to be fired if he didn't take a job before hand. It's one of those, "Your FIRED!!!" "You can't fire me cause I QUIT!!!" things.

McD is prolly a better fit for what the Chiefs are trying to do, but you can't argue with the wins this team has put together with Weis at the helm. Plus, this will be the 3rd OC for Cassel in as many years. Hopefully the familiarity with McD overrides everything and makes Cassel feel more at home in KC.
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I also heard he might be going to some other OC/HC in the NFL
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Ya. Haley and Weis didn't get along that well...never did from the very beginning. They made it work, though. I'm not worried about losing Weis. Haley's no slouch when it comes to running an offense, and McD is a no-brainer hire if he'll take the job.
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I've been doing some calls/emailing on this. Haley was doing more and more the last few weeks in the early week game plan implementing. Also, most of the credit of for the progression of Cassel is being directed towards Nick Sirianni, an offensive quality control coach. The relationship those two have has grown quite a bit.
I've heard from from a couple people with close ties to Weis, that the relationship between Weis and Cassel was never really been that good. So, it makes sense that Cassel has found another offensive coach to gravitate to. Who better than Haley's Offensive Quality Control guy to help Cassel with the nuances of the offense.

Also, in the Tennessee game, the Chiefs got off to a great start, but the Rams and Chargers games the Chiefs got off to a terribly slow start (or in the case of the Chargers game, never got going. I know, no Cassel). I'm not sure if that means Haley has been helping or hurting the offense the last few weeks. I know that there are some fundamental differences between Haley and Weis. I just thought that with the overall success of the team this year, they could put their differences aside and make this team better, together.
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Weis?!? Really?? who would give a HC job in the NFL? I can see him as an OC in the NFL, but I thought picking Florida was because he feels he can get a college HC job much sooner than a NFL HC job, IMO
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With the way Cassel played this year does it make McDaniels look better that he wanted him over Cutler?
The bad part was the compensation was pissed away. If they had taken Clay Mathews and Devin McCourty with those two picks, and Cassell was having this type of season for Denver he would look like a genius. But the compensation was poorly handled, as well as their own picks. I still felt he should have worked with Cutler if he wanted the job, but if someone was actually making the picks he was picking up they could have been onto something.
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Weis?!? Really?? who would give a HC job in the NFL? I can see him as an OC in the NFL, but I thought picking Florida was because he feels he can get a college HC job much sooner than a NFL HC job, IMO
Buffalo made Chan Gailey a head coach. Bad example, but still...there are some certifiable morons out there.
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Buffalo made Chan Gailey a head coach. Bad example, but still...there are some certifiable morons out there.
you sir, are correct and that was a great example.
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Weis' playcalling cost us 1 games this year at least (3rd and 1 pass vs HOU when we were runiing the ball down their thorars)
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