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Old 01-18-2011, 08:28 AM    (permalink
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Default Cloning? Should we or should we not?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110117...20110117104445

Two russian and a couple of Japanese plan on cloning a mammoth is about 5 years.

I don't know how I feel about cloning. I think it can help greatly in the medical field.
Growing extremities (ears) and replacing them on victims of accidents.
Then you get the ideas like the movie "The Island" though- is that so far off of what really could be?
Or is it no big deal... same DNA but still a different person...

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thinking that when this inevitably turns political/religious, i'll kill all of you.

on the other hand, speculation about a real life jurassic park would be awesome. minus the raptors.
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Well, at least clone me first so my son doesn't grow up a bastard :)
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If this is one step closer to me walking a triceratops down the street on a leash, then I'm all for it.
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Clone all the animals you want. I would love to see a real-life wooley mammoth, and it would be nice to repopulate the world with some extinct or endangered species.

Cloning humans to me is weird, as of now I'll say I'm not in favor. Cloning some parts, like ears or parts of the brain or whatever, is a gray area.
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If they bring T-rex back I would probably jizz my pants. I can't wait to be the first person in the neighborhood riding my dinosaur up and down the street..... bitches love T-rex.
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I want 3 of me. One of me can focus on work; one of me can get stuff done around the house, then, one of me just to chill out and do whatever.
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I want to play xbox while my clone goes to work so yes i am in favor of cloning. I also want to go to a real life jurassic park
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Clone as much as you want. Why the hell not? Let's get real weird with it.
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I find this post very funny for some reason. "Let's get real weird with it". lol.
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I've avoided rewatching Jurassic Park for fear that the special effects will look stupid to me now.
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And as for the dinosaurs, I want a raptor.
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I would like my own personal Gianna Michaels..
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That is part of the weirdness that I don't think humanity is ready to handle. Would clones be real people with rights, or just utility bodies for medicine/labor/sexual pleasure/etc? Governments or corporations determining personhood on any level seems like a terrible idea to me.
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What sense could it possibly make to clone extinct animals? That completely violates the purpose of natural selection.

On that subject... you couldn't populate a species with clones unless you had a ton of DNA sources. There needs to be significant genetic variation within a species.

We do not have the infrastructure to handle dinosaurs. If Jurassic Park taught us anything it's that dinosaurs cannot be controlled. MADNESS I SAY! Jeff Goldblum isn't coming to save us.

Cloning is badass. But there's no reason to think that clones would be any different than twins... they could potentially have completely different personalities based on life experiences, and such.
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What sense could it possibly make to clone extinct animals? That completely violates the purpose of natural selection.
i disagree that the ability to survive an asteroid collision suggests un-fitness.

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well you could, they'd just all have freak-offspring. and you'd need to continue to clone the parents to keep the numbers up. it would, likely, be financially unsustainable.

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i disagree. he'd just need rescuing from Dumb Cop Show #34234.
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Obviously Jurassic Park 3 taught us that dinosaurs can be contained if you just put them all on an island. The only problem would be pteradactyls, but then you just build a giant bird cage to hold them....wait...nevermind, because people leave the damn gate open so they escape...

Also, I would totally go to a Jurassic Park. If I was gonna die early, dying by dinosaur would be badass.
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i disagree that the ability to survive an asteroid collision suggests un-fitness.
Well... the levels of oxygen in the atmosphere are currently insufficient to sustain a high number of extremely large land animals. So... they would have died eventually... or become much smaller... which is what happened.

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well you could, they'd just all have freak-offspring. and you'd need to continue to clone the parents to keep the numbers up. it would, likely, be financially unsustainable.
I'm not sure the financial stability is the most important consideration, but yes... very unstable. Granted... Jurassic Park was a complete financial failure as well. Good luck getting investors. Scoff.
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Well... the levels of oxygen in the atmosphere are currently insufficient to sustain a high number of extremely large land animals. So... they would have died eventually... or become much smaller... which is what happened.
that's why we'd just breed t-rex. and feed them cattle. that'd be the deal, they'd have to eat enough cows to cancel out the amount of air they need to breathe. it'd be like carbon offsets.

and just think about how incredible a t-rex steak would taste, assuming that you raised it like veal is raised. i think there's a real business opportunity, here.

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I'm not sure the financial stability is the most important consideration, but yes... very unstable. Granted... Jurassic Park was a complete financial failure as well. Good luck getting investors. Scoff.
i'm more concerned with some ******* cloning velociraptors, who would then breed, and because they were too genetically similar, would start having mutation babies with even bigger claws and teeth. they might actually be born with only claws and teeth. little bundles of pain and suffering.
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Well if this was trully like Jurassic Park, there would be no need to worry about breeding. The dinosaurs on the island were asexual because of the reptile DNA they used, so they could reproduce no matter what. That's what caused the problem in the first place...
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