New York Giants Discussion

[Forenci]

Everyone is so angry! I do agree taking a LT in the first round wouldn't be a bad idea at all. I think Beatty would make a good RT, even though he's not much of a mauler and is pretty soft.

I'm not sure how I feel about Diehl playing LT. He's been pretty poopy at LG this year.

Also, hope you all have a great Thanksgiving!!

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Well we have no one else! We need to really go offense this draft! Damn OL stinks!

[bigbluedefense]

Really, we just need a LT. We're good at LG, C, and RG. You can make an argument, depending on how Brewer develops and how Diehl looks at LT this season that we can probably survive at RT with some sort of combination of Diehl, Brewer or possibly Beatty there next year.

But we need a LT to solidify the line. Now do we spend a 1st round pick on that player? I don't want to personally, only if a great prospect is there for the taking, but I really hate reaching for OTs in the 1st bc of the whole supply/demand thing.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Really, we just need a LT. We're good at LG, C, and RG. You can make an argument, depending on how Brewer develops and how Diehl looks at LT this season that we can probably survive at RT with some sort of combination of Diehl, Brewer or possibly Beatty there next year.

But we need a LT to solidify the line. Now do we spend a 1st round pick on that player? I don't want to personally, only if a great prospect is there for the taking, but I really hate reaching for OTs in the 1st bc of the whole supply/demand thing.

Right now, to be even avg, ALL our positions except for RG needs a kick in the balls. If BPA or whatever dictates any OL trench player, then I am drafting the guy. I am tired of relying on project picks. No more of that nonsense! Man up and spend a first rounder or a trench player.

Listen, our offensive philosophy is run the ball, control the clock and use PA. Right now we are dead last running the ball and yards per carry!!! That's beyond pathetic! Oh, we better spend a lot upgrading it! Eli is in his prime or just about in there. So not having him get killed because we keep going defensive side of the ball. Screw that man! If we do defense, unless someone drops like this past year, I will throw something through the tv!

[Giantsfan1080]

Snee has been terrible this year also.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post...ont-be-so-sure

Good article!

[Giantsfan1080]

I just read that and disagree with all of it. No excuses and we have the talent to win the division even with the injuries.

[Jughead10]

Yeah I agree. Once the Eagles proved very quickly they were certainly no dream team, it was wide open for us to take.

[bigbluedefense]

No excuses. Every team has injuries. We're not the only ones.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

I just read that and disagree with all of it. No excuses and we have the talent to win the division even with the injuries.

No we don't. This was the case before the season even started. We have overachieved with all these injuries. 1 good Cb, no mike, Boley was above avg at LB. Grant is 1000 years old. Rolle need to step up. Osi was hurt, and Tuck was hurt.

We have a revamped OL, and we lost a good WR and TE.


I thought the article was spot on whether giants fans want to admit it or not.

[Giantsfan1080]

The talent level on the team is much higher than you or Graziano is giving them credit for. The games we've lost like Seattle and Philly were not due to injuries. I'm not blaming anyone specifically but it's an excuse I'm sick of reading about it.

[Jughead10]

We still should have won that Philly game. That is the one that could end up being the killer. If we're 7-3 right now and a loss tonight ties us with the Cowboys, we have a whole different outlook.

[bigbluedefense]

The Philly game will haunt us. That was gutless and inexcusable.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

The Philly game will haunt us. That was gutless and inexcusable.

Seattle was even worse. At least the Philly game is a divisional rivalry. We had no business losing at home to the Seahwaks in that manner.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Seattle was even worse. At least the Philly game is a divisional rivalry. We had no business losing at home to the Seahwaks in that manner.

I think Philly was worse. You had a chance to bury your division rival who wasn't starting 2 of their best players, finally beat them twice in one season, in front of a national audience in a critical game before a hard schedule, and you don't even show up.

On top of that, a player of theirs hits Eli late, and throws a ball in your coordinator's face during the game and you STILL don't show any emotion or effort.

That to me was absolutely inexcusable. That was worse than Seattle. They didn't show up vs Seattle but vs Philly, they didn't show up even after getting sucker punched in the face.

[Jughead10]

Plus it hurts in a tie with Dallas. They are 2-1 and we are 1-2 in the division.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by Jughead10

Plus it hurts in a tie with Dallas. They are 2-1 and we are 1-2 in the division.

Well if we had beat Seattle we'd have a 1 game lead on them and we wouldn't have to worry about divisional records.

[Giantsfan1080]

Anyway how is everyone feeling about tonight's game?

[Jughead10]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Well if we had beat Seattle we'd have a 1 game lead on them and we wouldn't have to worry about divisional records.

The same if we beat the Eagles obviously. Except that win lead is also a division game. I assume we lose tonight so we would be tied.

[bigbluedefense]

I think we lose a close game.

[Giantsfan1080]

Sproles and Graham are going to eat us up over the middle I'm thinking. Hopefully since we're playing a real QB, Perry will bring the heat tonight.

[Damix]

Its come to the point that I don't even want to watch the game when we're on D because I get so frustrated with the play calling.

[Rosebud]

I guess I'll be the group contrarian and predict a win. I think this game is such a must win that we'll get up to win it, because if we don't, we're going to have to sweep Dallas, which I actually think we can pull off, but is still not something you want to have to depend on, although sweeping a division rival to deny them a playoff spot in week 17 would make this a sweet season.

[Giantsfan1080]

Ehh why is Boothe starting at LG? I want me some Petrus.

[BaLLiN]

For whatever reason, we find ways to stay in big games. As long as we stay in it I believe we will win.