New York Giants Discussion - Page 17

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 06:45 AM

Colts like their Rutgers players.

M.O.T.H. · 07-26-2011, 07:01 AM

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Great News Guys! Kirkpatrick, O'Dowd, Herzy, and Lefeged have all been signed and the only UDFA we signed is Jarriel King , OT, South Carolina.

You should be happy to get King. He's very projectionable...he's massive, he's a very impressive/superior athlete for his size, 36 1/2" arms, possesses great power. He has all the tools necessary to make a roster, and he can play LT. He could certainly play G as well with the power he posseses, and his footwork inconsistencies.

Obviously he went undrafted for a reason, though. He still hasnt put it all together yet. He could be dominant at times, but he didnt sustain this. He can be a little slow off the snap, but that can be corrected. He's been no stranger to off the field incidents and he had a heart condition health scare. But he's been cleared of that red flag. I like him at T, the athletic ability is there, he just needs some coaching yet, to sound up the techincal side of things.

But yeah, King's a solid get, with a lot of untapped potential.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 07:30 AM

We're not going to have many roster spots available this year so it's going to be very interesting to see who makes it to the Practice Squad.

OSUGiants17 · 07-26-2011, 08:28 AM

Yea don't get me wrong, King was a good signing and I'm happy with it, but missing out on both centers, and Herzy sucks.

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 09:01 AM

I just wanted us to get one of the Centers. So I'm bummed about that.

The rest...let's be honest, none of us know if any of these UDFAs will amount to anything. The FO knows alot more than we do about this.

Sounds like Boss wants to test the market. I don't think he'll like what he sees. With Miller and Heap out there, Boss's market value isn't that high.

Bradshaw could potentially go to the Dolphins too. It's btw us and the Dolphins, at least that's what the rumormill is saying.

If Dallas botched up the Doug Free situation, I'd love to take him off their hands. Free at LT, move Diehl to RT, Petrus at LG, Koets at C and Snee at RG.

Sounds like a very solid oline to me.

Damix · 07-26-2011, 09:09 AM

I doubt Petrus would be trusted.

In the unlikely scenario we do get a LT in FA/trade. Diehl to LG, keep McKenzie at RT.

The question is, does Beatty take over, or is he proving to be just a swing tackle.

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 09:11 AM

Coughlin LOVES Petrus.

I'm wondering if McKenzie might be a cap casualty. Beatty, I just don't trust him. And the fact that the Giants were hot for Nate Solder in the draft makes me worried too, bc that must mean they have their concerns about Beatty as well.

Damix · 07-26-2011, 09:25 AM

Eh, Coughlin praises a lot of players. Not all will be starters.

McKenzie may be a bit of an injury risk right now, but I'd think we'd be surprised at the drop off to another player. He has been a steady presence.

Really OL and LB are the only two places I can really see us spending anything on (assumption from me, Bradshaw resigns).

Another person I wouldn't mind looking at is Justin Durant, I don't think he'll be expensive.

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 09:35 AM

I really don't want Nicholas. I don't see how signing average LBs solves anything for us.

If we do sign him, that's a big time sign by the organization that they don't believe in Sintim.

And if that's the case, there's no guarantee he makes the team. He's in year 3 now, it could be put up or shut up time for Sintim. I don't think his issues are talent related. It seems like he has work ethic and attitude problems, from the clues you get when reading btw the lines when Coughlin and Reese talk about him.

Malaka · 07-26-2011, 09:46 AM

God, I hope we retain Bradshaw. He really is a spark in our offense, and I think his fumbling issues will be solved this year.

And guys, what happens if we can't retain Boss? Who the hell is going to play TE for us? Pascoe/Beckum...?

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 09:47 AM

Herz to the Giants!

I really hope he can turn it around. He's no guarantee to make the team though. But Lord knows I'm rooting hard for him.

OSUGiants17 · 07-26-2011, 10:44 AM

Giants potentially have the 2 biggest success stories, Chad Jones and Mark Herzlich!

Jughead10 · 07-26-2011, 10:45 AM

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Giants potentially have the 2 biggest success stories, Chad Jones and Mark Herzlich!

How many extra wins do we get for that?

OSUGiants17 · 07-26-2011, 10:47 AM

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How many extra wins do we get for that?

over 9000,

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 10:50 AM

Chad still hurts. That was a 3rd round pick in the deepest draft in recent memory.

We could have had Jimmy Graham, Tony Moeki.

Geno Atkins </3.

I know hindsight is 20/20, and at the time it was a great pick. The Chad Jones situation is just unfortunate.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 11:11 AM

So Herz to the Ravens was premature. Great to have Herz on the team. He's going to be out to prove he can play.

bigbluedefense · 07-26-2011, 11:23 AM

Nooooooooooooo!

We cut Richy!

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Damix · 07-26-2011, 11:25 AM

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Nooooooooooooo!

We cut Richy!

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Apparently he was the first one that reported too.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 11:27 AM

Man that sucks. Hell of a Giants and I wish him the best.

Forenci · 07-26-2011, 11:29 AM

We got Martin Parker, DT, too? Supposedly was a beast at Richmond.

Jughead10 · 07-26-2011, 11:32 AM

I could see Rich coming back for depth at a reduced salary. That guy just loves to play. He strikes me as the type who would consider playing for free.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 11:36 AM

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I could see Rich coming back for depth at a reduced salary. That guy just loves to play. He strikes me as the type who would consider playing for free.

Yeah I have a feeling he'll be re-signed for cheap. Wasn't he the longest tenured Giant?

Jughead10 · 07-26-2011, 11:38 AM

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Yeah I have a feeling he'll be re-signed for cheap. Wasn't he the longest tenured Giant?

He was. If he can't pass a physical no other team will be signing him so I'm sure at some point if he can play he'd take the vet minimum.

Osi's the next longest tenured I believe. Cut him and it might be Eli. Actually it would be Diehl, just looked.

Giantsfan1080 · 07-26-2011, 11:40 AM

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He was. If he can't pass a physical no other team will be signing him so I'm sure at some point if he can play he'd take the vet minimum.

Either that or if we need him during the season he'd be a phone call away.

I have this list of UDFA's signed so far:

Boston College LB Mark Herzlich tweets he is officially a Giant.
South Carolina OL Jarriel King per @NFLDraftInsider on Twitter.
Pittsburgh FB Henry Hynoski per nepatriotsdraft.com. The Newark Star-Ledger is reporting Hynoski has agreed to terms with the Giants.
Iowa State SS David Sims per what's believed to be his Twitter page.
Richmond DT Martin Parker per Star-Ledger.
Oregon LB Spencer Paysinger per what's believed to be his Twitter page.
Florida DE Justin Trattou per Star-Ledger.

Jughead10 · 07-26-2011, 11:41 AM

Trattou could be interesting. Although I have no idea where he would play. He has a weird body type. Kind of a DT/DE tweener. Played 3-4 DE, that might be his best spot although obviously not with us.

Nevermind, apparently he is extremely undersized for DT. I could have sworn thats how Florida used him.