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Our project draft picks have never worked out. Not one of them and I was the biggest Barden supporter. The list goes on and on for us of raw players who never did anything.
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The only reason we peg Beatty in with the future of this team is because of this contract not because of performance.
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I'm not ready to throw Beatty under the bus just yet. Let's see how he goes.

It could just be suited to RT.
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I'm not ready to throw Beatty under the bus just yet. Let's see how he goes.

It could just be suited to RT.
If that's the case what do we do with Pugh?
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If that's the case what do we do with Pugh?
either guard spot?

We have get buy with solid left tackles, Beatty is much more athletic than Diehl was
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Beatty was good before last year he was just banged up a lot. And this year he hasn't been as good but is still very far from the biggest problem on our imploding DL.
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Haha you guys give on players way too easily. Beatty hasn't been great but giving up on him now is silly. Up until last year he was regularly injured.

Also, if you follow the guy on Twitter, you would probably expect him to be the last type of guy to just "give up" or pack it in after getting a contract. He's a genuinely good dude and was/is a hard worker.
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Says the UConn graduate.

But seriously, hasn't Beatty looked pretty good the past 2 games? Maybe he just had a rough patch earlier in the season with so much fluctuation along the OL.

I still prefer him at RT but if we can't get a LT in FA (Albert), then maybe we can grab Oher at RT and plug Pugh at LG.

We need 3 OLmen in FA/draft so we're gonna have to pick up at least 1 FA OLmen somehow and mix and match the OL as best we can.
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I'm not going to give up oh him. I just don't think it was a great contract and the only reason he has an absolute going forward is because of the contract. We paid him as a LT after only good year as a LT.
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I know, I didn't like the money we gave him. We overpaid.

Jug, what do you think of Stephon Tuitt?
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Jug, what do you think of Stephon Tuitt?
I like Nix better. He can fit more schemes in my opinion. I'm not sure of Tuitt outside a 3-4. Also I think Tuitt goes back for another season. Both have another year of eligibility I believe. However Nix should be graduating this spring so he'd be more likely to leave.

True NTs like Nix are hard to find.
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And I really hate to be hard on Beatty, but I get a little pissed off when I see people throw him around as a core part of this team going forward. I guess he is by default.
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He is unfortunately, we don't have a choice. He's either going to be our LT or RT for the next couple of years. We're married to him now.

He's not a terrible player, but we overpaid. If he can become what he was last year again then we underpaid, but right now we overpaid.

You just have to hope he turns it around. He was good the past 2 games, so maybe all hope is not lost with him.
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I agree, he's the best of what we have now so he's a part of this team going forward. Bu the best of what we have now, just isn't saying much. I do like the versatility of this line however. It gives us an opportunity to potentially take the best OL in the draft. Regardless of position. And hopefully if that player would turn out to be the best player on the line, we can move others around accordingly.
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Yeah we have options. I really do believe we need to look at FA OLmen as well though.

I'm thinking either Albert or Oher. That kicks Pugh inside and now we just need 2 OLmen in the draft, maybe even 1 if we are willing to ride with Boothe for one more year.
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I'm also giving up on Clowney, thus the Oline talk. After watching games this Sunday I think we win this Monday and at least split with the Redskins. 2 wins might be too many. Haha. I'm sure we can scratch out at least one other win somewhere too.
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Yeah we have options. I really do believe we need to look at FA OLmen as well though.

I'm thinking either Albert or Oher. That kicks Pugh inside and now we just need 2 OLmen in the draft, maybe even 1 if we are willing to ride with Boothe for one more year.
The thing with Oher is he can't play LT. A whole book and movie about the blindside and this guy is a pure RT.
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The thing with Oher is he can't play LT. A whole book and movie about the blindside and this guy is a pure RT.
I'm fine with that. I view Oher strictly as a RT anyway. And he'll be much cheaper than Albert bc of that.

I want a pass rusher in the draft if we can somehow get one. Barr would be a great consolation prize. Or just trade and get a ton of picks. There are going to be a lot of qb needy teams who would be interested in moving up this year.

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Keep faith bro. The suck is strong with this team.
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Keep faith bro. The suck is strong with this team.
Yes and No. If we played like we did this past Thursday, we beat a few teams on this upcoming schedule.
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Yes and No. If we played like we did this past Thursday, we beat a few teams on this upcoming schedule.
Our problem has been turnovers all season. We beat Dallas and Chicago at the very least if we didn't turn it over so much. That's 2-4 instead of 0-6.

But right now it just seems like we're incapable of cutting down on the turnovers. I just need to see it first. I do think Minnesota is our first win of the season, but you never know.

The season is over for us, so I'm rooting for a competitive game but I really hope we keep our place in the Clowney sweepstakes.
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We'll likely win 3 or 4 games. When Andre Brown comes back it should settle the running game even more.
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Come on guys. Don't do this.

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Who's joining the #AStormIsComing movement this year with me?

We need something to root for guys. Be brave.
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Who's joining the #AStormIsComing movement this year with me?

We need something to root for guys. Be brave.
The Rangers suck but I still don't think I can give any time to the NBA. Plus I'm hoping this is just new coach, new system, starting 9 games on the road slump for the Rangers.
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NBA is fun haha. Knicks aren't going to do much this year though. At least not in the playoffs. BBD knows it deep down he just doesn't want to admit it to himself yet. There was nothing more depressing last year when we lost the Pacers and BBD became a realist and not a troll.

I think Beatty will be fine. He should be included in our future. He has to be. If he ends up sucking then we need to retool 4 out of 5 spots on the OL. That means we're in a much longer rebuilding project. He needs to work out.

And I do think he's been better these past couple games. Maybe he had an undisclosed injury early. Or maybe the light didn't go on. Who knows? I'm not giving up on him after a fewbad games. Honestly, outside a game and a half he hasn't been bad at all. It's just when he was bad he was REALLY bad like in the Panthers game. The whole OLine sucked dong then though.
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